Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction

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Alvaro Herrera
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Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction
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в 08:25:53
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20230509082553.yjikrxn54mi6hezc@alvherre.pgsql
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Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Regina Obe" <lr@pcorp.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Sandro Santilli <strk@kbt.io>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
RE: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Regina Obe" <lr@pcorp.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
RE: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Regina Obe" <lr@pcorp.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
RE: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Regina Obe" <lr@pcorp.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Daniel Verite" <daniel@manitou-mail.org>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
RE: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Regina Obe" <lr@pcorp.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Daniel Verite" <daniel@manitou-mail.org>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Daniel Verite" <daniel@manitou-mail.org>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction "Daniel Verite" <daniel@manitou-mail.org>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Sandro Santilli <strk@kbt.io>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Sandro Santilli <strk@kbt.io>
Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
On 2023-Apr-24, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

> The GUC settings lc_collate and lc_ctype are from a time when those locale
> settings were cluster-global.  When we made those locale settings
> per-database (PG 8.4), we kept them as read-only.  As of PG 15, you can use
> ICU as the per-database locale provider, so what is being attempted in the
> above example is already meaningless before PG 16, since you need to look
> into pg_database to find out what is really happening.
> 
> I think we should just remove the GUC parameters lc_collate and lc_ctype.

I agree with removing these in v16, since they are going to become more
meaningless and confusing.

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Álvaro Herrera               48°01'N 7°57'E  —  https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/


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