Обсуждение: mark wath catalogs are shared - was:(Re: [NOVICE] which database to login to to create global users?)

On 1/3/06, pres <pgn.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> hello tom,
>
>
> > See also the documentation on the system catalogs:
> > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/catalogs.html
> > The description of each catalog takes care to mention it if the catalog
> > is shared across databases.
> >
> >                         regards, tom lane
> >
>
>
> i'm not yet sure if/where we can make enduser requests, but in reading the
> documentation's "System Catalogs" section you'd pointed me to, i, of course,
> find:
>
>
>
> "... A few catalogs are physically shared across all databases in a cluster;
> these are noted in the descriptions of the individual catalogs.
>
> Table 42-1. System Catalogs..."
>
> i would find it helpful if Table 42-1 included a column that identified
> whehter each catalog is shared or not.  convenient, but given that the
> documentation does contain it, not necessary.
>
> simply, it would be nice to see it as an overview.
>
> thank you again.
>
> pres

is this acceptable or usefull? if so, i can do it after work...

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Jaime Casanova
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Jaime Casanova <systemguards@gmail.com> writes:
> On 1/3/06, pres <pgn.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>> i would find it helpful if Table 42-1 included a column that identified
>> whehter each catalog is shared or not.  convenient, but given that the
>> documentation does contain it, not necessary.

> is this acceptable or usefull? if so, i can do it after work...

It seems like clutter to me.  Whether a catalog is shared or not is not
necessarily the first thing you want to know about it.

            regards, tom lane

Tom Lane wrote:
> Jaime Casanova <systemguards@gmail.com> writes:
> > On 1/3/06, pres <pgn.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> i would find it helpful if Table 42-1 included a column that identified
> >> whehter each catalog is shared or not.  convenient, but given that the
> >> documentation does contain it, not necessary.
>
> > is this acceptable or usefull? if so, i can do it after work...
>
> It seems like clutter to me.  Whether a catalog is shared or not is not
> necessarily the first thing you want to know about it.

I am thinking the table should be split into two, one for the global
tables, and another for the db-local tables.  I don't think we make it
clear enough which tables are global.

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Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> It seems like clutter to me.  Whether a catalog is shared or not is not
>> necessarily the first thing you want to know about it.

> I am thinking the table should be split into two, one for the global
> tables, and another for the db-local tables.

That's even worse, as it converts the distinction into something you
must know even to look up the table.

> I don't think we make it clear enough which tables are global.

I think the labels appearing in the per-catalog descriptions are plenty
clear.

            regards, tom lane