Re: Index Tuning Features
От | Theo Schlossnagle |
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Тема | Re: Index Tuning Features |
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Msg-id | 31C4B7E9-B943-4555-90AB-6D3022CF7601@omniti.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: Index Tuning Features (Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>) |
Список | pgsql-hackers |
On Oct 11, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 12:40:42PM -0400, Gregory Stark wrote: >> poorly written query. In fact Oracle is going in the opposite >> direction of >> even relying on hints internally. Its plan stability feature >> depends on >> generating and storing hints internally associated with every query. > > But IBM, whose DB2 planner and optimiser is generally regarded as way > better than Oracle's (at least by anyone I know who's used both), > doesn't like hints. The IBM people all say the same thing Tom has > said before: that the work to design the thing correctly is better > spent making the planner and optimiser parts smarter and cheaper, > because out of that work you also manage not to have the DBA > accidentally mess things up by simple-minded rule-based hints. (Note > that I'm not trying to wade into the actual argument; I'm just > pointing out that even the biggest industry people don't agree on > this point.) DBAs can mess things up already if they misuse the tools they are provided. Like 'rm'. Which is there, but should _RARELY_ be used on database datafiles. The argument that people _could_ use them in a bad way is silly. Of course, they could use them in a bad way, that's not an _argument_. Everyone agrees people can be stupid. However, the planner will never be perfect. I would like to see 1 out of every 500,000 queries actually benefit from a hint system (which means that 499,999 of the queries were planned perfectly fine by the planner). To fix my one query, that is crucially important to my business, it is a much more sane approach to hint the system to change its plan than it is to have to upgrade my binaries. // Theo Schlossnagle // CTO -- http://www.omniti.com/~jesus/ // OmniTI Computer Consulting, Inc. -- http://www.omniti.com/
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