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Define DatumGetInt8 function.

От
Kirill Reshke
Дата:
Hi hackers!

I am currently involved in the Cloudberry kernel rebase process[0]. We
are rebasing [0] which is based on pg-14 on pg-16 kernel. During this
process I noticed rebase conflicts introduced  by c8b2ef0. This commit
defines a number of include functions for datum conversion.

During this rebase resolution, I noticed that there is an Int8GetDatum
function, but there is no DatumGetInt8, which I want to use. All other
inline functions seem to be provided in pairs by postgres.h. So it
looks convenient to define DatumGetInt8 in postgres.h?

FPA doing just that.


[0] https://github.com/apache/cloudberry

-- 
Best regards,
Kirill Reshke

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Re: Define DatumGetInt8 function.

От
Chao Li
Дата:

> On Dec 29, 2025, at 19:02, Kirill Reshke <reshkekirill@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi hackers!
> 
> I am currently involved in the Cloudberry kernel rebase process[0]. We
> are rebasing [0] which is based on pg-14 on pg-16 kernel. During this
> process I noticed rebase conflicts introduced  by c8b2ef0. This commit
> defines a number of include functions for datum conversion.
> 
> During this rebase resolution, I noticed that there is an Int8GetDatum
> function, but there is no DatumGetInt8, which I want to use. All other
> inline functions seem to be provided in pairs by postgres.h. So it
> looks convenient to define DatumGetInt8 in postgres.h?
> 
> FPA doing just that.
> 
> 
> [0] https://github.com/apache/cloudberry
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Kirill Reshke
> <v1-0001-Define-DatumGetInt8-function.patch>

LGTM.

Best regards,
--
Chao Li (Evan)
HighGo Software Co., Ltd.
https://www.highgo.com/







Re: Define DatumGetInt8 function.

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Kirill Reshke <reshkekirill@gmail.com> writes:
> During this rebase resolution, I noticed that there is an Int8GetDatum
> function, but there is no DatumGetInt8, which I want to use. All other
> inline functions seem to be provided in pairs by postgres.h. So it
> looks convenient to define DatumGetInt8 in postgres.h?

I would actually turn this around and ask why we have Int8GetDatum?
We have no SQL types for which that is well-adapted.  I see no
uses of Int8GetDatum in our tree, and only three uses of
UInt8GetDatum, and all three of those look like type puns to me.
(heap_page_items is returning a smallint, and btcharskipsupport
should be using CharGetDatum.)

So from where I sit these look like an attractive nuisance that
we should remove rather than encourage use of.  If you have
some extension data type for which these make sense, that's
fine, but it doesn't mean they should be in core Postgres.

            regards, tom lane



Re: Define DatumGetInt8 function.

От
Kirill Reshke
Дата:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2025 at 20:52, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

> So from where I sit these look like an attractive nuisance that
> we should remove rather than encourage use of.  If you have
> some extension data type for which these make sense, that's
> fine, but it doesn't mean they should be in core Postgres.
>
>                         regards, tom lane

Well, OK. Removal is also fine for me, because it is at least consistent.

-- 
Best regards,
Kirill Reshke



Re: Define DatumGetInt8 function.

От
David Rowley
Дата:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 at 05:01, Kirill Reshke <reshkekirill@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, OK. Removal is also fine for me, because it is at least consistent.

Kirill, are you working on this patch?  I've not studied in detail,
but looks like it would require making
char_decrement()/char_increment() and btcharskipsupport() all use
CharGetDatum()/DatumGetChar() and switch to using SCHAR_MIN/SCHAR_MAX
rather than 0/UCHAR_MAX.

If you're not working on it, it would be good if you could withdraw
the patch from the commitfest.

David



Re: Define DatumGetInt8 function.

От
Kirill Reshke
Дата:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 at 16:50, David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 at 05:01, Kirill Reshke <reshkekirill@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, OK. Removal is also fine for me, because it is at least consistent.
>

> Kirill, are you working on this patch?


Hi!
Yes, PFA.

 > I've not studied in detail,
> but looks like it would require making
> char_decrement()/char_increment() and btcharskipsupport() all use
> CharGetDatum()/DatumGetChar() and switch to using SCHAR_MIN/SCHAR_MAX
> rather than 0/UCHAR_MAX.

This is also a possible change, and can be a separate patch. I will
try to also work on this this week.



-- 
Best regards,
Kirill Reshke

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Re: Define DatumGetInt8 function.

От
Aleksander Alekseev
Дата:
Hi,

> > Kirill, are you working on this patch?
>
> Yes, PFA.
>
>  > I've not studied in detail,
> > but looks like it would require making
> > char_decrement()/char_increment() and btcharskipsupport() all use
> > CharGetDatum()/DatumGetChar() and switch to using SCHAR_MIN/SCHAR_MAX
> > rather than 0/UCHAR_MAX.
>
> This is also a possible change, and can be a separate patch. I will
> try to also work on this this week.

v1 looks incomplete to me. As I understand, Tom proposed to get rid of
UInt8 conversions as well. Are you going to implement this idea as
well?

-- 
Best regards,
Aleksander Alekseev



Re: Define DatumGetInt8 function.

От
Kirill Reshke
Дата:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 at 19:22, Aleksander Alekseev
<aleksander@tigerdata.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > > Kirill, are you working on this patch?
> >
> > Yes, PFA.
> >
> >  > I've not studied in detail,
> > > but looks like it would require making
> > > char_decrement()/char_increment() and btcharskipsupport() all use
> > > CharGetDatum()/DatumGetChar() and switch to using SCHAR_MIN/SCHAR_MAX
> > > rather than 0/UCHAR_MAX.
> >
> > This is also a possible change, and can be a separate patch. I will
> > try to also work on this this week.
>
> v1 looks incomplete to me. As I understand, Tom proposed to get rid of
> UInt8 conversions as well. Are you going to implement this idea as
> well?
>


Hmm, v1 looks good and self-contained to me. Like, anyway, making two
commits (one for signed Int8 and one for unsigned) here is better for
sake of atomicy?
Anyway, I can see there are users of UInt8GetDatum, which are [0] and
forks of Greenplum. So, I am not super-sure removing UInt8* is
desirable.


[0] https://github.com/duckdb/pg_duckdb/blob/main/src/pgduckdb_types.cpp#L230


-- 
Best regards,
Kirill Reshke



Re: Define DatumGetInt8 function.

От
Aleksander Alekseev
Дата:
Hi,

> Hmm, v1 looks good and self-contained to me. Like, anyway, making two
> commits (one for signed Int8 and one for unsigned) here is better for
> sake of atomicy?
> Anyway, I can see there are users of UInt8GetDatum, which are [0] and
> forks of Greenplum. So, I am not super-sure removing UInt8* is
> desirable.

Fair enough. Let it be a separate patch then.

--
Best regards,
Aleksander Alekseev

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