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event trigger support for PL/Python

От
"Euler Taveira"
Дата:
Hi,

There is an old thread [1] that proposed $SUBJECT. That patch was not committed and the thread died. I use the referred
patchas base for the attached version. The key differences between them are: documentation, tests, refactor (0001) and
afew cleanups.
 


[1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/m2ob7wihex.fsf%402ndQuadrant.fr

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Re: event trigger support for PL/Python

От
Pavel Stehule
Дата:
Hi

it is registered in commitfest app?

The patch looks well

Regards

Pavel

st 16. 7. 2025 v 14:02 odesílatel Euler Taveira <euler@eulerto.com> napsal:
Hi,

There is an old thread [1] that proposed $SUBJECT. That patch was not committed and the thread died. I use the referred patch as base for the attached version. The key differences between them are: documentation, tests, refactor (0001) and a few cleanups.


[1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/m2ob7wihex.fsf%402ndQuadrant.fr

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Re: event trigger support for PL/Python

От
"Euler Taveira"
Дата:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2025, at 3:07 AM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> it is registered in commitfest app?
>
> The patch looks well
>
Ops. I forgot to create one. I registered it now.

https://commitfest.postgresql.org/patch/5939/


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Re: event trigger support for PL/Python

От
Pavel Stehule
Дата:


út 29. 7. 2025 v 14:53 odesílatel Euler Taveira <euler@eulerto.com> napsal:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2025, at 3:07 AM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> it is registered in commitfest app?
>
> The patch looks well
>
Ops. I forgot to create one. I registered it now.

https://commitfest.postgresql.org/patch/5939/


Thank you

Pavel
 

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Re: event trigger support for PL/Python

От
Pavel Stehule
Дата:
Hi

út 29. 7. 2025 v 14:53 odesílatel Euler Taveira <euler@eulerto.com> napsal:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2025, at 3:07 AM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> it is registered in commitfest app?
>
> The patch looks well
>
Ops. I forgot to create one. I registered it now.

https://commitfest.postgresql.org/patch/5939/


I am checking the code, and I don't like too much an introduction of PLPyTrigType - more when it is used in 
the pair with variable is_trigger. This combination looks strange and it is a little bit difficult to read for me.

Maybe I prefer some like

typedef enum {
  PLPY_CALLED_AS_TRIGGER,
  PLPY_CALLED_AS_EVENT_TRIGGER,
  PLPY_CALLED_AS_FUNCTION
} PLPyCallType;

and then instead

if (is_trigger == PLPY_NOT_TRIGGER)

the code can looks like

if (call_type == PLPY_CALLED_AS_FUNCTION)
{

}

What do you think?

Regards

Pavel
 

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Re: event trigger support for PL/Python

От
"Euler Taveira"
Дата:
On Wed, Aug 6, 2025, at 5:16 PM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
>
> I am checking the code, and I don't like too much an introduction of 
> PLPyTrigType - more when it is used in 
> the pair with variable is_trigger. This combination looks strange and 
> it is a little bit difficult to read for me.
>
> Maybe I prefer some like
>
> typedef enum {
>   PLPY_CALLED_AS_TRIGGER,
>   PLPY_CALLED_AS_EVENT_TRIGGER,
>   PLPY_CALLED_AS_FUNCTION
> } PLPyCallType;
>

I used the same pattern as PL/pgSQL

typedef enum PLpgSQL_trigtype
{
    PLPGSQL_DML_TRIGGER,
    PLPGSQL_EVENT_TRIGGER,
    PLPGSQL_NOT_TRIGGER,
} PLpgSQL_trigtype;

Are you suggesting that we should modify it too?

> and then instead
>
> if (is_trigger == PLPY_NOT_TRIGGER)
>
> the code can looks like
>
> if (call_type == PLPY_CALLED_AS_FUNCTION)
> {
>
> }
>

The is_trigger variable is similar to fn_is_trigger in PL/pgSQL (see
PLpgSQL_function). If this variable is not clear maybe a prefix should avoid
confusion.


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Re: event trigger support for PL/Python

От
Pavel Stehule
Дата:


čt 7. 8. 2025 v 2:35 odesílatel Euler Taveira <euler@eulerto.com> napsal:
On Wed, Aug 6, 2025, at 5:16 PM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
>
> I am checking the code, and I don't like too much an introduction of
> PLPyTrigType - more when it is used in
> the pair with variable is_trigger. This combination looks strange and
> it is a little bit difficult to read for me.
>
> Maybe I prefer some like
>
> typedef enum {
>   PLPY_CALLED_AS_TRIGGER,
>   PLPY_CALLED_AS_EVENT_TRIGGER,
>   PLPY_CALLED_AS_FUNCTION
> } PLPyCallType;
>

I used the same pattern as PL/pgSQL

I see it 

typedef enum PLpgSQL_trigtype
{
    PLPGSQL_DML_TRIGGER,
    PLPGSQL_EVENT_TRIGGER,
    PLPGSQL_NOT_TRIGGER,
} PLpgSQL_trigtype;

Are you suggesting that we should modify it too?

I am not happy about it, but maybe not, and it is a different issue. I think fn_is_trigger is a little bit of a messy name too. It worked when there was no other type of trigger and this variable was boolean. But the rename breaks plpgsql plugins :-/, and I am not sure if it is an acceptable cost. Although there are probably four plpgsql plugins, and the change can be minimal and easy (and well detected) 

Minimally - you should to use PLPY_DML_TRIGGER instead PLPY_TRIGGER

 

> and then instead
>
> if (is_trigger == PLPY_NOT_TRIGGER)
>
> the code can looks like
>
> if (call_type == PLPY_CALLED_AS_FUNCTION)
> {
>
> }
>

The is_trigger variable is similar to fn_is_trigger in PL/pgSQL (see
PLpgSQL_function). If this variable is not clear maybe a prefix should avoid
confusion.


Maybe the name "trigtype" can be better than "is_trigger". The similarity with PLpgSQL has some benefits, but in this case I think so the plpgsql design (of this case) is minimally confusing (and really the related part in plpgsql_compile_callback can be cleaned). How much - this is a question. There are two different things that are mixed together (and this is what I dislike):

a) how the function was defined - RETURNS trigger, RETURNS event_trigger, or something else

b) how the function was called - as dml trigger, as event trigger, or as function or procedure

You can see, the event trigger has minimal intersection with the dml trigger - but using the name "is_trigger" or "fn_is_trigger" implies stronger relations between dml triggers and event triggers.

What do you think? 

Regards

Pavel


 

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Re: event trigger support for PL/Python

От
"Euler Taveira"
Дата:
On Thu, Aug 7, 2025, at 1:53 AM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> Minimally - you should to use PLPY_DML_TRIGGER instead PLPY_TRIGGER
>

I didn't use DML terminology for the same reason Peter said in another thread
[1]; let's *not* introduce a new terminology (DML trigger).

> Maybe the name "trigtype" can be better than "is_trigger". The 
> similarity with PLpgSQL has some benefits, but in this case I think so 
> the plpgsql design (of this case) is minimally confusing (and really 
> the related part in plpgsql_compile_callback can be cleaned). How much 
> - this is a question. There are two different things that are mixed 
> together (and this is what I dislike):
>

I'm fine with trigger kind or trigger type but I wouldn't like to use DML
trigger.


[1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/1379995202.8103.4.camel@vanquo.pezone.net


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Re: event trigger support for PL/Python

От
Pavel Stehule
Дата:


pá 8. 8. 2025 v 1:31 odesílatel Euler Taveira <euler@eulerto.com> napsal:
On Thu, Aug 7, 2025, at 1:53 AM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> Minimally - you should to use PLPY_DML_TRIGGER instead PLPY_TRIGGER
>

I didn't use DML terminology for the same reason Peter said in another thread
[1]; let's *not* introduce a new terminology (DML trigger).

> Maybe the name "trigtype" can be better than "is_trigger". The
> similarity with PLpgSQL has some benefits, but in this case I think so
> the plpgsql design (of this case) is minimally confusing (and really
> the related part in plpgsql_compile_callback can be cleaned). How much
> - this is a question. There are two different things that are mixed
> together (and this is what I dislike):
>

I'm fine with trigger kind or trigger type but I wouldn't like to use DML
trigger.


[1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/1379995202.8103.4.camel@vanquo.pezone.net

ok

Regards

Pavel 



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Re: event trigger support for PL/Python

От
Peter Eisentraut
Дата:
On 16.07.25 14:01, Euler Taveira wrote:
> There is an old thread [1] that proposed $SUBJECT. That patch was not committed and the thread died. I use the
referredpatch as base for the attached version. The key differences between them are: documentation, tests, refactor
(0001)and a few cleanups.
 

Committed.

I altered the documentation a bit to have the event triggers description 
in its own sect1, next to normal triggers.  This is how it's done in the 
other PL chapters, so it made sense to keep it similar.




Re: event trigger support for PL/Python

От
"Euler Taveira"
Дата:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2025, at 4:46 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 16.07.25 14:01, Euler Taveira wrote:
>> There is an old thread [1] that proposed $SUBJECT. That patch was not committed and the thread died. I use the
referredpatch as base for the attached version. The key differences between them are: documentation, tests, refactor
(0001)and a few cleanups.
 
>
> Committed.
>

Thanks.

> I altered the documentation a bit to have the event triggers description 
> in its own sect1, next to normal triggers.  This is how it's done in the 
> other PL chapters, so it made sense to keep it similar.

LGTM.


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