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Re: pg_upgradecluster version 10 to 16 question

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 11:59:24AM -0700, Jim Cunning wrote:
> I configured the PGDG repository and tried to install postgresql-10 on my
> kubuntu 24.04 LTS desktop system, but apt refused to install it because of
> unsatisfied dependencies.  I then installed kubuntu 22.04 LTS on a backup
> system and was able to install postgresql-10 there.  I was able to use pg_dump
> to recover all the data and move it to the replacement server running ubuntu
> 24.04 LTS with postgresql-16.  All should be good.  Thanks for the help.

Uh, newer vesions of pg_dump should be able to dump from a PG 10
cluster.

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> 
> On 6/10/25 13:17, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> 
>     On 6/10/25 13:14, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> 
>         On 6/10/25 13:01, Jim Cunning wrote:
> 
>             I had a Ubuntu 20.04 LTS system with a postgresql version 10
>             database, and the system became unbootable.  The database was
>             stored in /var/lib/postgresql/10/main and I was able to recover the
>             entire contents of the data in that directory and below.  I now
>             have a system running ubuntu 24.04 LTS with postgresql version 16.
> 
>             I obviously no longer have a running version 10 server, so I cannot
>             use pg_dump to retrieve the data.  I have placed the recovered
>             version files in /var/lib/postgresql/10/main on my new system,
>             alongside the /var/lib/postgresql/16/main that was created when I
>             installed postgresql.  I have tried several iterations of the
>             pg_upgradecluster command, a Python script provided by Ubuntu, but
>             it says it cannot find the database files.
> 
>             I also see from the postgresql wiki pages that there is a
>             pg_upgrade utility program, but cannot find in any of the
>             Ubuntu-provided installation files.  Can anyone provide some
>             guidance on how I might proceed?
> 
> 
>         1) Do:
> 
>         man pg_upgradecluster
> 
>         2) Assuming you used the PGDG repos to install Postgres you can do:
> 
>         sudo apt install postgresql-10
> 
>         to get a Postgres 10 install. I would move the /var/lib/postgresql/10/
>         main you created out of the way and then move the contents back in to
>         the installed version.
> 
> 
>     Forgot to say, be sure and retain a copy of the original 10 $DATADIR
>     somewhere where you can fetch it should the above not work as planned.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>             Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: pg_upgradecluster version 10 to 16 question

От
"David G. Johnston"
Дата:
On Wednesday, June 11, 2025, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 11:59:24AM -0700, Jim Cunning wrote:
> I configured the PGDG repository and tried to install postgresql-10 on my
> kubuntu 24.04 LTS desktop system, but apt refused to install it because of
> unsatisfied dependencies.  I then installed kubuntu 22.04 LTS on a backup
> system and was able to install postgresql-10 there.  I was able to use pg_dump
> to recover all the data and move it to the replacement server running ubuntu
> 24.04 LTS with postgresql-16.  All should be good.  Thanks for the help.

Uh, newer vesions of pg_dump should be able to dump from a PG 10
cluster.


A running cluster, yes.  Apparently the PGDG packaging for PG10 is incompatible with Kubuntu 24.04 thus no running cluster.  It worked in 22.04.  Given that PG10 was obsolete when 24.04 came out this isn’t a shock to me.

David J.

Re: pg_upgradecluster version 10 to 16 question

От
Adrian Klaver
Дата:
On 6/11/25 12:53, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 11:59:24AM -0700, Jim Cunning wrote:
>> I configured the PGDG repository and tried to install postgresql-10 on my
>> kubuntu 24.04 LTS desktop system, but apt refused to install it because of
>> unsatisfied dependencies.  I then installed kubuntu 22.04 LTS on a backup
>> system and was able to install postgresql-10 there.  I was able to use pg_dump
>> to recover all the data and move it to the replacement server running ubuntu
>> 24.04 LTS with postgresql-16.  All should be good.  Thanks for the help.
> 
> Uh, newer vesions of pg_dump should be able to dump from a PG 10
> cluster.
> 

The issue is the OP just had the $DATADIR and no Postgres 10 binaries to 
run an instance.

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Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com




Re: pg_upgradecluster version 10 to 16 question

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 01:07:11PM -0700, David G. Johnston wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2025, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> 
>     On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 11:59:24AM -0700, Jim Cunning wrote:
>     > I configured the PGDG repository and tried to install postgresql-10 on my
>     > kubuntu 24.04 LTS desktop system, but apt refused to install it because
>     of
>     > unsatisfied dependencies.  I then installed kubuntu 22.04 LTS on a backup
>     > system and was able to install postgresql-10 there.  I was able to use
>     pg_dump
>     > to recover all the data and move it to the replacement server running
>     ubuntu
>     > 24.04 LTS with postgresql-16.  All should be good.  Thanks for the help.
> 
>     Uh, newer vesions of pg_dump should be able to dump from a PG 10
>     cluster.
> 
> 
> 
> A running cluster, yes.  Apparently the PGDG packaging for PG10 is incompatible
> with Kubuntu 24.04 thus no running cluster.  It worked in 22.04.  Given that
> PG10 was obsolete when 24.04 came out this isn’t a shock to me.

Oh, wow, yeah, good point.

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  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        https://momjian.us
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  Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.



Re: pg_upgradecluster version 10 to 16 question

От
Adrian Klaver
Дата:
On 6/11/25 13:07, David G. Johnston wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2025, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us 
> <mailto:bruce@momjian.us>> wrote:
> 
>     On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 11:59:24AM -0700, Jim Cunning wrote:
>      > I configured the PGDG repository and tried to install
>     postgresql-10 on my
>      > kubuntu 24.04 LTS desktop system, but apt refused to install it
>     because of
>      > unsatisfied dependencies.  I then installed kubuntu 22.04 LTS on
>     a backup
>      > system and was able to install postgresql-10 there.  I was able
>     to use pg_dump
>      > to recover all the data and move it to the replacement server
>     running ubuntu
>      > 24.04 LTS with postgresql-16.  All should be good.  Thanks for
>     the help.
> 
>     Uh, newer vesions of pg_dump should be able to dump from a PG 10
>     cluster.
> 
> 
> A running cluster, yes.  Apparently the PGDG packaging for PG10 is 
> incompatible with Kubuntu 24.04 thus no running cluster.  It worked in 
> 22.04.  Given that PG10 was obsolete when 24.04 came out this isn’t a 
> shock to me.

That is what is confusing me.

This:

https://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/noble-pgdg/10/

indicates it is at least expected to install.

> 
> David J.
> 

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Adrian Klaver
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