Обсуждение: Incorrect Repo Information?

On 2/9/22 9:22 PM, Tyler Chambers wrote:
> Hi Postgres Web Team (?)
> 
> On this page:
> https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ 
> <https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/>
> 
> In the section "Included in distribution" (at the very bottom) pgadmin4 
> is listed as being in the repository: 
> http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt 
> <http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt>.

The "Included in Distribution" is something we need to re-title (I 
believe it was discussed on a different thread). It's meant to convey 
that these packages are included in the upstream OS distribution, i.e. 
Ubuntu itself, not the PostgreSQL APT repository.

> 
> This does not seem to still be the case. It appears pgadmin4 has been 
> relocated to this apt repository: 
> https://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/pgadmin/pgadmin4/apt/ 
> <https://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/pgadmin/pgadmin4/apt/> , per 
> https://www.pgadmin.org/download/pgadmin-4-apt 
> <https://www.pgadmin.org/download/pgadmin-4-apt>.
> 
> If that is true, it would be great if you could update 
> https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ 
> <https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/> to remove the table 
> entry for pgadmin4, and maybe throw in some links to the respective 
> projects download pages if they've been relocated.

That said, doing a quick search[1] on the Ubuntu packages list, I did 
not see pgAdmin 4 there, so it could be removed.

Adding in Christoph to get his opinion. Note that this is on the eve of 
a PostgreSQL update release, so his response may be delayed.

Thanks,

Jonathan

[1] https://packages.ubuntu.com/

Re: Jonathan S. Katz
> > <https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/>
> > 
> > In the section "Included in distribution" (at the very bottom) pgadmin4
> > is listed as being in the repository:
> > <http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt>.
> 
> The "Included in Distribution" is something we need to re-title (I believe
> it was discussed on a different thread). It's meant to convey that these
> packages are included in the upstream OS distribution, i.e. Ubuntu itself,
> not the PostgreSQL APT repository.

pgadmin4 was removed from apt.postgresql.org after what I call the
"pgadmin incident". I was struggling to keep the packages updated
while upstream kept adding new dependencies, and at some point,
without any warning, upstream started publishing their own apt
packages. Of course the "pgadmin" pgadmin packages didn't even try to
be compatible with the existing packaging. At that point I was fed up
and nuked the existing packages.

It's not in Debian or Ubuntu either for that reason, plus the problem
they are using a JS minifier/packager that isn't packaged itself.

Christoph

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 9:43 AM Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Re: Jonathan S. Katz
> > > <https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/>
> > >
> > > In the section "Included in distribution" (at the very bottom) pgadmin4
> > > is listed as being in the repository:
> > > <http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt>.
> >
> > The "Included in Distribution" is something we need to re-title (I believe
> > it was discussed on a different thread). It's meant to convey that these
> > packages are included in the upstream OS distribution, i.e. Ubuntu itself,
> > not the PostgreSQL APT repository.
>
> pgadmin4 was removed from apt.postgresql.org after what I call the
> "pgadmin incident". I was struggling to keep the packages updated
> while upstream kept adding new dependencies, and at some point,
> without any warning, upstream started publishing their own apt
> packages. Of course the "pgadmin" pgadmin packages didn't even try to
> be compatible with the existing packaging. At that point I was fed up
> and nuked the existing packages.
>
> It's not in Debian or Ubuntu either for that reason, plus the problem
> they are using a JS minifier/packager that isn't packaged itself.

Yeah, that's an oversight that it wasn't removed fromt he download
page. I'll go do that.

In passing I will also remove the mention of the contrib package there
since it's now gone from all the supported versions of PostgreSQL (and
included in the main packages).

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