Обсуждение: Introducing 2UDA, 2ndQuadrant’s Unified Data Analytics

Dear team, 

Just wanted to followup on my request below to list 2UDA on the PostgreSQL downloads page. Please let me know in case you have any questions regarding this request or regarding 2UDA in general. 

Thanks! 

- Umair

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

Dear www team, 

Allow me to introduce 2UDA, 2ndQuadrant’s Unified Data Analytics application suite that centers around PostgreSQL 9.5. It unifies databases, spreadsheets, data mining and visualisations in one seamless desktop installer available for Windows, OSX, & Linux. You can find more details here: http://2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/2uda/

2UDA is designed to offer data analysts a complete working stack containing PostgreSQL and a data mining tool (Orange) that fully utilises the latest 9.5 features. Utilizing the new tablesample feature, as an example, it can create visualizations for important statistics very quickly for very very large data sets.

We offer 2UDA as a means of expanding the audience who may wish to download PostgreSQL and utilise its latest features, so hope to list this package on the PostgreSQL downloads page.

Please free to let me know if you have any concerns or any questions related to 2UDA and its possible listing on the page. I would be happy to explain and answer all your queries. 

Thanks! 

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

Dear team, 

Just wanted to followup on my request below to list 2UDA on the PostgreSQL downloads page. Please let me know in case you have any questions regarding this request or regarding 2UDA in general. 

Hello!

Adding entries to the software catalogue is self-service - just go to http://www.postgresql.org/download/product-categories/ and fill out the linked form.

//Magnus

 

Thanks! 

- Umair

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

Dear www team, 

Allow me to introduce 2UDA, 2ndQuadrant’s Unified Data Analytics application suite that centers around PostgreSQL 9.5. It unifies databases, spreadsheets, data mining and visualisations in one seamless desktop installer available for Windows, OSX, & Linux. You can find more details here: http://2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/2uda/

2UDA is designed to offer data analysts a complete working stack containing PostgreSQL and a data mining tool (Orange) that fully utilises the latest 9.5 features. Utilizing the new tablesample feature, as an example, it can create visualizations for important statistics very quickly for very very large data sets.

We offer 2UDA as a means of expanding the audience who may wish to download PostgreSQL and utilise its latest features, so hope to list this package on the PostgreSQL downloads page.

Please free to let me know if you have any concerns or any questions related to 2UDA and its possible listing on the page. I would be happy to explain and answer all your queries. 

Thanks! 

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 11/11/15 3:56 AM, Umair Shahid wrote:
>> Thanks Magnus. The software catalogue is aimed at associated software.
>> 2UDA is a new distribution of PostgreSQL, aiming to expand and widen the
>> number of people interested in downloading PostgreSQL. Given that goal,
>> we would like to see 2UDA listed on the downloads page under Core/ 3rd
>> Party, not in the catalogue. Can you help?
>
> There is obviously some room for interpretation here.  But I think
> something that is listed as a PostgreSQL distribution should track
> PostgreSQL releases in schedule and versioning.  For example, I should
> be able to see, where is the latest PostgreSQL 9.4 release of this or
> that distribution.  I can do that for the listed Live CD and BigSQL
> distributions, for example.  However, by that standard, the Bitnami and
> Turnkey listings should be removed.  I have no idea without digging very
> deep what version of PostgreSQL they are shipping and how they are
> updating it.  Just bundling some random version of PostgreSQL with some
> other software and setup scripts and calling it MyProduct 1.5 doesn't
> make it a PostgreSQL distribution.  There could very well be a need for
> a new category in the software catalog called "PostgreSQL integrated
> software bundles" or something like that.

The previous criteria we've used is that packages listed in the
PostgreSQL Core Distribution section are a) "core PostgreSQL", e.g.
community PostgreSQL, perhaps with one or more of the surrounding
projects (pgAdmin, PostGIS, drivers etc), and b) strictly follow the
PostgreSQL release schedule and support lifecycle.

Other packages in the "3rd party distributions" are subject to less
stringent criteria; e.g. they are more specialised in the software
they bundle (e.g BigSQL) - but still include community PostgreSQL -
and don't necessarily follow the release schedule and support
lifecycle. I believe this is the appropriate section for 2UDA, if
folks think it should be included.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 11/11/15 3:56 AM, Umair Shahid wrote:
>> Thanks Magnus. The software catalogue is aimed at associated software.
>> 2UDA is a new distribution of PostgreSQL, aiming to expand and widen the
>> number of people interested in downloading PostgreSQL. Given that goal,
>> we would like to see 2UDA listed on the downloads page under Core/ 3rd
>> Party, not in the catalogue. Can you help?
>
> There is obviously some room for interpretation here.  But I think
> something that is listed as a PostgreSQL distribution should track
> PostgreSQL releases in schedule and versioning.  For example, I should
> be able to see, where is the latest PostgreSQL 9.4 release of this or
> that distribution.  I can do that for the listed Live CD and BigSQL
> distributions, for example.  However, by that standard, the Bitnami and
> Turnkey listings should be removed.  I have no idea without digging very
> deep what version of PostgreSQL they are shipping and how they are
> updating it.  Just bundling some random version of PostgreSQL with some
> other software and setup scripts and calling it MyProduct 1.5 doesn't
> make it a PostgreSQL distribution.  There could very well be a need for
> a new category in the software catalog called "PostgreSQL integrated
> software bundles" or something like that.

The previous criteria we've used is that packages listed in the
PostgreSQL Core Distribution section are a) "core PostgreSQL", e.g.
community PostgreSQL, perhaps with one or more of the surrounding
projects (pgAdmin, PostGIS, drivers etc), and b) strictly follow the
PostgreSQL release schedule and support lifecycle.

Other packages in the "3rd party distributions" are subject to less
stringent criteria; e.g. they are more specialised in the software
they bundle (e.g BigSQL) - but still include community PostgreSQL -
and don't necessarily follow the release schedule and support
lifecycle. I believe this is the appropriate section for 2UDA, if
folks think it should be included.

--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Umair Shahid
<umair.shahid@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> wrote:
>> > On 11/11/15 3:56 AM, Umair Shahid wrote:
>> >> Thanks Magnus. The software catalogue is aimed at associated software.
>> >> 2UDA is a new distribution of PostgreSQL, aiming to expand and widen
>> >> the
>> >> number of people interested in downloading PostgreSQL. Given that goal,
>> >> we would like to see 2UDA listed on the downloads page under Core/ 3rd
>> >> Party, not in the catalogue. Can you help?
>> >
>> > There is obviously some room for interpretation here.  But I think
>> > something that is listed as a PostgreSQL distribution should track
>> > PostgreSQL releases in schedule and versioning.  For example, I should
>> > be able to see, where is the latest PostgreSQL 9.4 release of this or
>> > that distribution.  I can do that for the listed Live CD and BigSQL
>> > distributions, for example.  However, by that standard, the Bitnami and
>> > Turnkey listings should be removed.  I have no idea without digging very
>> > deep what version of PostgreSQL they are shipping and how they are
>> > updating it.  Just bundling some random version of PostgreSQL with some
>> > other software and setup scripts and calling it MyProduct 1.5 doesn't
>> > make it a PostgreSQL distribution.  There could very well be a need for
>> > a new category in the software catalog called "PostgreSQL integrated
>> > software bundles" or something like that.
>>
>> The previous criteria we've used is that packages listed in the
>> PostgreSQL Core Distribution section are a) "core PostgreSQL", e.g.
>> community PostgreSQL, perhaps with one or more of the surrounding
>> projects (pgAdmin, PostGIS, drivers etc), and b) strictly follow the
>> PostgreSQL release schedule and support lifecycle.
>>
>> Other packages in the "3rd party distributions" are subject to less
>> stringent criteria; e.g. they are more specialised in the software
>> they bundle (e.g BigSQL) - but still include community PostgreSQL -
>> and don't necessarily follow the release schedule and support
>> lifecycle. I believe this is the appropriate section for 2UDA, if
>> folks think it should be included.
>
>
> Thanks Dave, sounds good. We will be glad to have 2UDA listed as a 3rd Party
> Distribution. Here's a patch ...

Thanks - patch applied.

--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company