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Cross-posting to 26 lists?

От
Josh Berkus
Дата:
WWW,

John Nash was just able to cross-post to 26 mailing lists at once.  I
thought we had a filter in place to prevent posting to more than 2 lists
at once?

Oh, and please ban him, of course.


-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com



Re: Cross-posting to 26 lists?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:31:20PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> WWW,
> 
> John Nash was just able to cross-post to 26 mailing lists at once.  I
> thought we had a filter in place to prevent posting to more than 2 lists
> at once?
> 
> Oh, and please ban him, of course.

And here is the email that contains his email address:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-admin/2012-10/msg00046.php

--  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB
http://enterprisedb.com
 + It's impossible for everything to be true. +



Re: Cross-posting to 26 lists?

От
Thom Brown
Дата:
On 16 October 2012 22:45, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:31:20PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> WWW,
>>
>> John Nash was just able to cross-post to 26 mailing lists at once.  I
>> thought we had a filter in place to prevent posting to more than 2 lists
>> at once?
>>
>> Oh, and please ban him, of course.
>
> And here is the email that contains his email address:
>
>         http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-admin/2012-10/msg00046.php

I noticed that, and rejected his post to the -novice list.
-- 
Thom



Re: Cross-posting to 26 lists?

От
Peter Geoghegan
Дата:
On 16 October 2012 22:31, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
> Oh, and please ban him, of course.

I'm inclined to agree. This, along with the fact that he's obviously
using a fake name makes me believe that he has no intention of ever
giving a single thing back.

-- 
Peter Geoghegan       http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services



Re: Cross-posting to 26 lists?

От
Alvaro Herrera
Дата:
Josh Berkus wrote:
> WWW,
>
> John Nash was just able to cross-post to 26 mailing lists at once.  I
> thought we had a filter in place to prevent posting to more than 2 lists
> at once?

I think the problem here was one of misunderstanding Majordomo.  I saw
his post in the moderation interface and thought a bit about it; I
thought I would let one copy get through and approved it; then
mass-rejected all remaining moderation requests (all spam).  I didn't
notice that Majordomo had published all the other copies; maybe what
happened (but with my understanding of how Mj2 works, I don't think this
is likely) was that the re-sender process saw the CCs in the mail header
and copied to all the other lists.

I don't care enough to spend much of my time researching this.  It's not
like we have this problem every week.

> Oh, and please ban him, of course.

I think this is an overreaction.  The guy has validly posted to other
lists previously, and apart from the mistake of copying all lists in
this one message, I don't see any sign of repeated misfeasance.  I don't
see that forcing the guy to create a second gmail account to post would
accomplish anything.

--
Álvaro Herrera                http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services



Re: Cross-posting to 26 lists?

От
Dave Page
Дата:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Alvaro Herrera
<alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> Josh Berkus wrote:
>> WWW,
>>
>> John Nash was just able to cross-post to 26 mailing lists at once.  I
>> thought we had a filter in place to prevent posting to more than 2 lists
>> at once?
>
> I think the problem here was one of misunderstanding Majordomo.  I saw
> his post in the moderation interface and thought a bit about it; I
> thought I would let one copy get through and approved it; then
> mass-rejected all remaining moderation requests (all spam).  I didn't
> notice that Majordomo had published all the other copies; maybe what
> happened (but with my understanding of how Mj2 works, I don't think this
> is likely) was that the re-sender process saw the CCs in the mail header
> and copied to all the other lists.
>
> I don't care enough to spend much of my time researching this.  It's not
> like we have this problem every week.
>
>> Oh, and please ban him, of course.
>
> I think this is an overreaction.  The guy has validly posted to other
> lists previously, and apart from the mistake of copying all lists in
> this one message, I don't see any sign of repeated misfeasance.  I don't
> see that forcing the guy to create a second gmail account to post would
> accomplish anything.

+1. It's not like it was spam - it was relevant to PostgreSQL.


-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company



Re: Cross-posting to 26 lists?

От
Josh Berkus
Дата:
>> I think this is an overreaction.  The guy has validly posted to other
>> lists previously, and apart from the mistake of copying all lists in
>> this one message, I don't see any sign of repeated misfeasance.  I don't
>> see that forcing the guy to create a second gmail account to post would
>> accomplish anything.
> 
> +1. It's not like it was spam - it was relevant to PostgreSQL.

Has someone sent him an email saying "don't do that again or you will
get kicked off", though?


-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com



Re: Cross-posting to 26 lists?

От
Alvaro Herrera
Дата:
Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> >> I think this is an overreaction.  The guy has validly posted to other
> >> lists previously, and apart from the mistake of copying all lists in
> >> this one message, I don't see any sign of repeated misfeasance.  I don't
> >> see that forcing the guy to create a second gmail account to post would
> >> accomplish anything.
> >
> > +1. It's not like it was spam - it was relevant to PostgreSQL.
>
> Has someone sent him an email saying "don't do that again or you will
> get kicked off", though?

I suggest either you or Bruce do it :-)

--
Álvaro Herrera                http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services



Re: Cross-posting to 26 lists?

От
Dave Page
Дата:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
>
>>> I think this is an overreaction.  The guy has validly posted to other
>>> lists previously, and apart from the mistake of copying all lists in
>>> this one message, I don't see any sign of repeated misfeasance.  I don't
>>> see that forcing the guy to create a second gmail account to post would
>>> accomplish anything.
>>
>> +1. It's not like it was spam - it was relevant to PostgreSQL.
>
> Has someone sent him an email saying "don't do that again or you will
> get kicked off", though?

I replied to him on one of the lists (-hackers iirc) and told him not
to do it again. I didn't threaten him with being booted though.


-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company



Re: Cross-posting to 26 lists?

От
Josh Berkus
Дата:
On 10/17/12 1:15 PM, Dave Page wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I think this is an overreaction.  The guy has validly posted to other
>>>> lists previously, and apart from the mistake of copying all lists in
>>>> this one message, I don't see any sign of repeated misfeasance.  I don't
>>>> see that forcing the guy to create a second gmail account to post would
>>>> accomplish anything.
>>>
>>> +1. It's not like it was spam - it was relevant to PostgreSQL.
>>
>> Has someone sent him an email saying "don't do that again or you will
>> get kicked off", though?
> 
> I replied to him on one of the lists (-hackers iirc) and told him not
> to do it again. I didn't threaten him with being booted though.

Seems sufficient.


-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com