Обсуждение: fundraising@postgresql.org

Folks,

Well, thepostgresqlfoundation.com (run by Greg) server just died.   We
could spend some time recreating it, but it doesn't seem worthwhile.

What do people think would make more sense ... a funds@postgresql.org
e-mail list, or a pgfoundry project?   I'm leaning towards pgfoundry
project, myself ...

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--Josh

Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Well, thepostgresqlfoundation.com (run by Greg) server just died.   We
> could spend some time recreating it, but it doesn't seem worthwhile.

I could throw up a vserver for this in 15minutes if you wanted one ...just
let me know ...

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> Folks,
>
> Well, thepostgresqlfoundation.com (run by Greg) server just
> died.   We
> could spend some time recreating it, but it doesn't seem worthwhile.

Does the foundation exist at all? ;-) Or should we just let it die
quietly? I got the impression it was the second?


> What do people think would make more sense ... a funds@postgresql.org
> e-mail list, or a pgfoundry project?   I'm leaning towards pgfoundry
> project, myself ...

I'd say @postgresql.org, just to disagree with your. Or rather, because
it shuold be clearly shown that it's a part of the core project and not
some addon - I assume this is for ppl who want to ask question about
whom to give all their money etc?

//Magnus

Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Well, thepostgresqlfoundation.com (run by Greg) server just died.   We
>> could spend some time recreating it, but it doesn't seem worthwhile.
>
> I could throw up a vserver for this in 15minutes if you wanted one
> ...just let me know ...

Since we have basically dissolved the PostgreSQL foundation it makes
much more since to have it as part of the core project.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake





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Magnus,

> Does the foundation exist at all? ;-)

No, we now have a fund at Software in the Public Interest.  This removes
from us the burden of running an NPO, something we just didn't have the
resources to do.

> I'd say @postgresql.org, just to disagree with your. Or rather, because
> it shuold be clearly shown that it's a part of the core project and not
> some addon - I assume this is for ppl who want to ask question about
> whom to give all their money etc?

<grin> It's a little more complex than that.

What we need is a coordination area for the Fundraising Group.  The FG
will control the funds at Software in The Public Interest, and their
German affiliate, FFIV.  However, there are PostgreSQL NPOs in France
and Japan whose relationship to the FG is not yet defined.

Oh, and before the clamor starts, there will be a membership shuffle in
the FG and new people will be invited to join to make it more
representative of PostgreSQL.org as a whole.  Right now, we're in the
process of drafting a charter ... at least, we were when the mailing
list went down.

So, we currently need one list for the FG.  However, when we speak of
raising money for PostgreSQL in general, that needs to encompass JPUG
and PostgreSQL.Fr, and possibly other organizations in the future.  So
it'll probably be two lists, one for the FG related to the SPI funds and
one for the main coordinating body for money issues which might consist
of representatives from each of the organizations.

Therefore ... I'm leaning towards the pgfoundry project for the FG, at
least until we get organized.

Complicated enough for you?   It's so PostgreSQL!

--Josh Berkus

> > Does the foundation exist at all? ;-)
>
> No, we now have a fund at Software in the Public Interest.
> This removes from us the burden of running an NPO, something
> we just didn't have the resources to do.

Ok. That's what I thought.


> > I'd say @postgresql.org, just to disagree with your. Or rather,
> > because it shuold be clearly shown that it's a part of the core
> > project and not some addon - I assume this is for ppl who
> want to ask
> > question about whom to give all their money etc?
>
> <grin> It's a little more complex than that.

I sohuld've known.


> What we need is a coordination area for the Fundraising
> Group.  The FG will control the funds at Software in The
> Public Interest, and their German affiliate, FFIV.  However,
> there are PostgreSQL NPOs in France and Japan whose
> relationship to the FG is not yet defined.
>
> Oh, and before the clamor starts, there will be a membership
> shuffle in the FG and new people will be invited to join to
> make it more representative of PostgreSQL.org as a whole.
> Right now, we're in the process of drafting a charter ... at
> least, we were when the mailing list went down.
>
> So, we currently need one list for the FG.  However, when we
> speak of raising money for PostgreSQL in general, that needs
> to encompass JPUG and PostgreSQL.Fr, and possibly other
> organizations in the future.  So it'll probably be two lists,
> one for the FG related to the SPI funds and one for the main
> coordinating body for money issues which might consist of
> representatives from each of the organizations.
>
> Therefore ... I'm leaning towards the pgfoundry project for
> the FG, at least until we get organized.

Seems reasonable for that - until it's organised. Once it starts
becoming an "official representative", I'm still all for making it look
"more official". But it might be good to have the orgnaisation and
charter flushed out first.


> Complicated enough for you?   It's so PostgreSQL!

Bah, PostgreSQL is simple compared to this ;-)

//Magnus