Обсуждение: Please change link to pginstaller
Folks, Please change http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew: There's a link to pginstaller at pgfoundry at the end of the 1st paragraph. Please update that to point to the mirrors and bittorrent; we don't want people downloading pginstaller from pgfoundry, since it's NOT mirrored. --Josh -- __Aglio Database Solutions_______________ Josh Berkus Consultant josh@agliodbs.com www.agliodbs.com Ph: 415-752-2500 Fax: 415-752-2387 2166 Hayes Suite 200 San Francisco, CA
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Josh Berkus wrote: > Folks, > > Please change http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew: > > There's a link to pginstaller at pgfoundry at the end of the 1st paragraph. > Please update that to point to the mirrors and bittorrent; we don't want > people downloading pginstaller from pgfoundry, since it's NOT mirrored. I have purchased a stack of pginstaller.org/.com/.net/.info domain names to help promote this project. I can probably set up a mirror to provide downloads for the installer as well. Can I get some idea of the download rates so I know how much bandwidth to purchase? Thanks, Gavin
> > Please change http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew: > > > > There's a link to pginstaller at pgfoundry at the end of > the 1st paragraph. > > Please update that to point to the mirrors and bittorrent; we don't > > want people downloading pginstaller from pgfoundry, since > it's NOT mirrored. > > I have purchased a stack of pginstaller.org/.com/.net/.info > domain names to help promote this project. I can probably set > up a mirror to provide downloads for the installer as well. > Can I get some idea of the download rates so I know how much > bandwidth to purchase? I think it's better to direct downloads to the standard way. It gives us download tracking ;-), and it also makes it appear more as "the official postgresql installer" (which I beleive it is). That said, please feel free to point this domains to whatever we have. Another thought - the win32 install FAQ is now on http://pginstaller.projects.postgresql.org, along with the step-by-step walkthrough. Should this be merged onto the main site to be mirrored? How does pgFoundry deal with serving up the static pages? //Magnus
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > > Please change http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew: > > > > > > There's a link to pginstaller at pgfoundry at the end of > > the 1st paragraph. > > > Please update that to point to the mirrors and bittorrent; we don't > > > want people downloading pginstaller from pgfoundry, since > > it's NOT mirrored. > > > > I have purchased a stack of pginstaller.org/.com/.net/.info > > domain names to help promote this project. I can probably set > > up a mirror to provide downloads for the installer as well. > > Can I get some idea of the download rates so I know how much > > bandwidth to purchase? > > I think it's better to direct downloads to the standard way. It gives us > download tracking ;-), and it also makes it appear more as "the official > postgresql installer" (which I beleive it is). I believe that pginstaller is totally buried on pgfoundry. And as others pointed out, there are load/bandwidth considerations. I can do download tracking for you and I will have a few hundred GB/month bandwidth. What I have in mind is a single page with promotional material, links to screen shots, a link to download the most recent version and a link to the pgfoundry page for more information. The only annoying bit is keeping the page up to date with the latest version. Its not a huge problem but. What do you think? Gavin
Magnus Hagander wrote: <snip> > I think it's better to direct downloads to the standard way. It gives us > download tracking ;-), and it also makes it appear more as "the official > postgresql installer" (which I beleive it is). We might be able to update the download counting script to redirect to Gavin's servers for the pginstaller version. Also, since he's running the pginstaller server, he can probably make reciprocal scripts for sending stats back to us for counting with in case something's missed. :) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift <snip> -- "One who sees the invisible can do the impossible." + Frank Gaines
Josh Berkus wrote: > Folks, > > Please change http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew: > > There's a link to pginstaller at pgfoundry at the end of the 1st paragraph. > Please update that to point to the mirrors and bittorrent; we don't want > people downloading pginstaller from pgfoundry, since it's NOT mirrored. Do we need to change the pginstaller URL in the release notes, and if so, to what? -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Bruce, > Do we need to change the pginstaller URL in the release notes, and if > so, to what? http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/win32/ -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Josh Berkus wrote: > Bruce, > > > Do we need to change the pginstaller URL in the release notes, and if > > so, to what? > > http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/win32/ OK, updated CVS head and 8.0.X. Shame the new URL doesn't look as nice as the pgfoundry page. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: >> Bruce, >> >>> Do we need to change the pginstaller URL in the release notes, and if >>> so, to what? >> >> http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/win32/ > > OK, updated CVS head and 8.0.X. Shame the new URL doesn't look as nice > as the pgfoundry page. Is there a reason we can't setup: http://dl.pgfoundry.org/pginstaller that aliases directly to the above? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Josh Berkus wrote: > >> Bruce, > >> > >>> Do we need to change the pginstaller URL in the release notes, and if > >>> so, to what? > >> > >> http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/win32/ > > > > OK, updated CVS head and 8.0.X. Shame the new URL doesn't look as nice > > as the pgfoundry page. > > Is there a reason we can't setup: > > http://dl.pgfoundry.org/pginstaller > > that aliases directly to the above? Sorry, I meant to say the page pointed to by the URL isn't as nice, not the URL itself. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
> -----Original Message----- > From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Josh Berkus > Sent: 09 February 2005 23:32 > To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: [pgsql-www] Please change link to pginstaller > > Folks, > > Please change http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew: > > There's a link to pginstaller at pgfoundry at the end of the > 1st paragraph. > Please update that to point to the mirrors and bittorrent; we > don't want > people downloading pginstaller from pgfoundry, since it's NOT > mirrored. Done. /D
> -----Original Message----- > From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Gavin Sherry > Sent: 09 February 2005 23:40 > To: Josh Berkus > Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Please change link to pginstaller > > I have purchased a stack of pginstaller.org/.com/.net/.info > domain names > to help promote this project. I can probably set up a mirror > to provide > downloads for the installer as well. Can I get some idea of > the download > rates so I know how much bandwidth to purchase? There is no need - it's already mirrored across the entire mirror network. I would suggest you redirect your domains to the pgfoundry site - we only upload HTML placeholder files there now that redirect ppl to the mirror network. Regards, Dave.
> > > > Please change http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew: > > > > > > > > There's a link to pginstaller at pgfoundry at the end of > > > the 1st paragraph. > > > > Please update that to point to the mirrors and bittorrent; we > > > > don't want people downloading pginstaller from pgfoundry, since > > > it's NOT mirrored. > > > > > > I have purchased a stack of > pginstaller.org/.com/.net/.info domain > > > names to help promote this project. I can probably set up > a mirror > > > to provide downloads for the installer as well. > > > Can I get some idea of the download rates so I know how much > > > bandwidth to purchase? > > > > I think it's better to direct downloads to the standard > way. It gives > > us download tracking ;-), and it also makes it appear more as "the > > official postgresql installer" (which I beleive it is). > > I believe that pginstaller is totally buried on pgfoundry. > And as others pointed out, there are load/bandwidth > considerations. I can do download tracking for you and I will > have a few hundred GB/month bandwidth. > > What I have in mind is a single page with promotional > material, links to screen shots, a link to download the most > recent version and a link to the pgfoundry page for more > information. The only annoying bit is keeping the page up to > date with the latest version. Its not a huge problem but. > > What do you think? I think you are missing my point ;-) I don't think we should differentiate the pginstaller too much from postgresql. Which is why I think it should be on the main site. I like the promotional stuff, but I'd like to see that on the main page as well. If it's ther, it will automatically be mirrored along with the rest of the main site, which should by far have enuogh bandwidth. And I'm talking about the download tracking Dave did for the main site, not the pgFoundry download tracking. I'm all for getting the main parts off pgfoundry (that includes redirecting pginstaller.projects.postgresql.org if necessary - probably will be), but I think it's better to move it to the main site than to set up Yet Another Site. IMHO, there are too many different pg sites already. AFAIK the plan was to make them less (folding advocacy etc into the main site, for example). It just seems wrong to create yet another one. //Magnus