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pgaccess - registration before download

От
"Iavor Raytchev"
Дата:
Hello everybody,

One idea I want to share and ask for opinions.

As pgaccess is about to be released these days as -

pgaccess 0.98.8 preliminary release 1

containing all three groups of patches of Bartus, Boyan and Chris, that
started the whole effort about four months ago (and some other bugs
fixed), I want to ask you what you think of a
registration-before-download mechanism on the pgaccess web site.

The reason to ask for this is because in a way it is very exciting to
work on this project, but I am getting somehow conscious - what is the
net effect from inspiring these people (there are about six people
dedicated to pgaccess and may be four more who help in one way or
another) working on it.

What may be we can do in order not to make it more difficult for people
who just want to download it fast, is to provide a dual possibility -

a] download
b] fill in a form before download

And ask kindly people to do it the b] way, explaining to them why it is
nicer.

The b] way might be completely simple - people just enter their e-mail
address (as identification only) and fill one text field (or click a
check box) with the purpose of the download - end user, tester,
developer, second download, etc. It will not give or require password.
It might provide also an option (via check box and e-mail that requires
reply as confirmation) for subscribing the pgaccess mailing lists.

This will provide valuable feedback - we can even make it public - how
many users pgaccess has, what they use it for, and this way - show if
our effort is worth or are we just having harmless fun :)

Everything must be very transparent.

All best to everybody,

Iavor

--
Iavor Raytchev
very small technologies (a company of CEE Solutions)

in case of emergency -
      call: + 43 676 639 46 49
or write to: support@verysmall.org

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Re: pgaccess - registration before download

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Good idea.  When I do registration, I think it is good to tell people
they value they can get by registering, such as receiving email
announcements of new releases or stuff like that.

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Iavor Raytchev wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> One idea I want to share and ask for opinions.
> 
> As pgaccess is about to be released these days as -
> 
> pgaccess 0.98.8 preliminary release 1
> 
> containing all three groups of patches of Bartus, Boyan and Chris, that
> started the whole effort about four months ago (and some other bugs
> fixed), I want to ask you what you think of a
> registration-before-download mechanism on the pgaccess web site.
> 
> The reason to ask for this is because in a way it is very exciting to
> work on this project, but I am getting somehow conscious - what is the
> net effect from inspiring these people (there are about six people
> dedicated to pgaccess and may be four more who help in one way or
> another) working on it.
> 
> What may be we can do in order not to make it more difficult for people
> who just want to download it fast, is to provide a dual possibility -
> 
> a] download
> b] fill in a form before download
> 
> And ask kindly people to do it the b] way, explaining to them why it is
> nicer.
> 
> The b] way might be completely simple - people just enter their e-mail
> address (as identification only) and fill one text field (or click a
> check box) with the purpose of the download - end user, tester,
> developer, second download, etc. It will not give or require password.
> It might provide also an option (via check box and e-mail that requires
> reply as confirmation) for subscribing the pgaccess mailing lists.
> 
> This will provide valuable feedback - we can even make it public - how
> many users pgaccess has, what they use it for, and this way - show if
> our effort is worth or are we just having harmless fun :)
> 
> Everything must be very transparent.
> 
> All best to everybody,
> 
> Iavor
> 
> --
> Iavor Raytchev
> very small technologies (a company of CEE Solutions)
> 
> in case of emergency -
> 
>        call: + 43 676 639 46 49
> or write to: support@verysmall.org
> 
> www.verysmall.org
> 
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Re: pgaccess - registration before download

От
Harry Forster
Дата:
This is the first time that I have responded to this list after years of 
lurking.  I have purchased three PostgresQL books but as yet have not 
developed an application for it.   I will in the future.

Over the past decade I have become a complete convert to open source or 
free software.  I will never again use proprietary software.  I am one 
of those hidden statistics in the O'Reily report "The Strange Case of 
the Disappearing Open Source Vendors"   
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/06/28/vendor.html.
<http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/06/28/vendor.html>
I believe that open source is going to a more mature level.  The focus 
on tools has provided people like me the oportunity that was never 
available in the propietary markets.  We must find ways to reward  and 
perpetuate the social system that has given us so much.  To do this it 
is important to understand this user market, which we can only do by 
gathering information.  

We should collect some information and it should be analyzed so that we 
can provide a better future.  The problem is what to collect,  how to 
analyze, and why.  This may not be the place to discuss this but we 
should do it.  

I thank the open source community for giving me my life back.   All of 
you are impressive human beings.

Harry





Iavor Raytchev wrote:

>Hello everybody,
>
>
>The reason to ask for this is because in a way it is very exciting to
>work on this project, but I am getting somehow conscious - what is the
>net effect from inspiring these people (there are about six people
>dedicated to pgaccess and may be four more who help in one way or
>another) working on it.
>
>What may be we can do in order not to make it more difficult for people
>who just want to download it fast, is to provide a dual possibility -
>
>a] download
>b] fill in a form before download
>
>And ask kindly people to do it the b] way, explaining to them why it is
>nicer.
>
>The b] way might be completely simple - people just enter their e-mail
>address (as identification only) and fill one text field (or click a
>check box) with the purpose of the download - end user, tester,
>developer, second download, etc. It will not give or require password.
>It might provide also an option (via check box and e-mail that requires
>reply as confirmation) for subscribing the pgaccess mailing lists.
>
>This will provide valuable feedback - we can even make it public - how
>many users pgaccess has, what they use it for, and this way - show if
>our effort is worth or are we just having harmless fun :)
>
>Everything must be very transparent.
>
>All best to everybody,
>
>Iavor
>
>--
>Iavor Raytchev
>very small technologies (a company of CEE Solutions)
>
>in case of emergency -
>
>       call: + 43 676 639 46 49
>or write to: support@verysmall.org
>
>www.verysmall.org
>
>  
>