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Fwd: Publishing PG docs

От
Kisung Kim
Дата:
Dear,

We are a postgreSQL company in South Korea.
As a one of our efforts to spread postgreSQL in our country,
we plan to publish the Korean version of the postgreSQL documentation as a printed book
via Acorn publisher(which is one of the biggest IT publisher in Korea).

But we think that we should check and solve some licensing issues
with regards to the copyrights of the PG docs.

We will translate the PG docs to the Korean language, and publish the translated book.
And Acorn publisher will sell the books commercially, 
which means that they will seek to make a commercial incomes by selling the books.

Is there any issues with selling the translated book commercially?
We know that the English version was sold by Furtus.com (Is it alive?).
Any body who is concerned to this issue, please, let us know and give some helps.

Thank you, everybody.

Kisung Kim.

  

                                                                                                                                                       


(C)Bitnine, Kisung Kim, Ph.D
https://sites.google.com/site/kisungresearch/
E-mail : kskim@bitnine.co.kr
Office phone : 070-4800-3321
Mobile phone : 010-7136-0834
Fax : 02-568-1332


Re: Fwd: Publishing PG docs

От
Tair Sabirgaliev
Дата:
Hi,

The documentation has Copyright notice here: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/static/LEGALNOTICE.html
I’m not a lawyer, but basically it lists 3 paragraphs to be included in all copies, modified versions or other uses.
Though not sure how this applies to to ‘translations’..

-- 
Tair Sabirgaliev
Bee Software, LLP

On July 20, 2015 at 11:22:49, Kisung Kim (kskim@bitnine.co.kr) wrote:

Dear,

We are a postgreSQL company in South Korea.
As a one of our efforts to spread postgreSQL in our country,
we plan to publish the Korean version of the postgreSQL documentation as a printed book
via Acorn publisher(which is one of the biggest IT publisher in Korea).

But we think that we should check and solve some licensing issues
with regards to the copyrights of the PG docs.

We will translate the PG docs to the Korean language, and publish the translated book.
And Acorn publisher will sell the books commercially, 
which means that they will seek to make a commercial incomes by selling the books.

Is there any issues with selling the translated book commercially?
We know that the English version was sold by Furtus.com (Is it alive?).
Any body who is concerned to this issue, please, let us know and give some helps.

Thank you, everybody.

Kisung Kim.

  

                                                                                                                                                       


(C)Bitnine, Kisung Kim, Ph.D
https://sites.google.com/site/kisungresearch/
E-mail : kskim@bitnine.co.kr
Office phone : 070-4800-3321
Mobile phone : 010-7136-0834
Fax : 02-568-1332


Re: Fwd: Publishing PG docs

От
Josh Berkus
Дата:
Mr. Kim,

> We are a postgreSQL company in South Korea.
> As a one of our efforts to spread postgreSQL in our country,
> we plan to publish the Korean version of the postgreSQL documentation as
> a printed book
> via Acorn publisher(which is one of the biggest IT publisher in Korea).
>
> But we think that we should check and solve some licensing issues
> with regards to the copyrights of the PG docs.
>
> We will translate the PG docs to the Korean language, and publish the
> translated book.
> And Acorn publisher will sell the books commercially,
> which means that they will seek to make a commercial incomes by selling
> the books.
>
> Is there any issues with selling the translated book commercially?
> We know that the English version was sold by Furtus.com (Is it alive?).
> Any body who is concerned to this issue, please, let us know and give
> some helps.

The documentation is licensed as open source, under the PostgreSQL
license.  As long as you include a copy of the license in the book,
printing it and selling it is perfectly legal.

There's also the issue of using the PostgreSQL trademark.  While this
use of the trademark (on a copy of the documentation) is explicitly
allowed within the Trademark Policy
(https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy) you can get a
specific authorization by emailing the PostgreSQL Core Team
(pgsql-core@postgresql.org).

Finally, if you're doing this: how about some help translating the
PostgreSQL documentation and error messages into Korean?  We could
really use it.

--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com


Re: Fwd: Publishing PG docs

От
Kisung Kim
Дата:
Dear Josh Berkus

Thank you for your reply.

We are translating the PostgreSQL documentation into Korean now 

and willing to contribute the results to the community.

And it will be also a big pleasure if we can translate the error messages and contribute to the community.

Can you give some advises about how we can start it?

Finally, our company has many developers who are analyzing the PostgreSQL source code

and we hope to contribute to the community by developing or patching the engine in near future

as well as the translation work.

We hope to keep the contact with the core team and to contribute the community in many ways.

Thank you.




                                                                                                                                                       


(C)Bitnine, Kisung Kim, Ph.D
https://sites.google.com/site/kisungresearch/
E-mail : kskim@bitnine.co.kr
Office phone : 070-4800-3321
Mobile phone : 010-7136-0834
Fax : 02-568-1332


2015-07-28 4:30 GMT+09:00 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>:
Mr. Kim,

> We are a postgreSQL company in South Korea.
> As a one of our efforts to spread postgreSQL in our country,
> we plan to publish the Korean version of the postgreSQL documentation as
> a printed book
> via Acorn publisher(which is one of the biggest IT publisher in Korea).
>
> But we think that we should check and solve some licensing issues
> with regards to the copyrights of the PG docs.
>
> We will translate the PG docs to the Korean language, and publish the
> translated book.
> And Acorn publisher will sell the books commercially,
> which means that they will seek to make a commercial incomes by selling
> the books.
>
> Is there any issues with selling the translated book commercially?
> We know that the English version was sold by Furtus.com (Is it alive?).
> Any body who is concerned to this issue, please, let us know and give
> some helps.

The documentation is licensed as open source, under the PostgreSQL
license.  As long as you include a copy of the license in the book,
printing it and selling it is perfectly legal.

There's also the issue of using the PostgreSQL trademark.  While this
use of the trademark (on a copy of the documentation) is explicitly
allowed within the Trademark Policy
(https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy) you can get a
specific authorization by emailing the PostgreSQL Core Team
(pgsql-core@postgresql.org).

Finally, if you're doing this: how about some help translating the
PostgreSQL documentation and error messages into Korean?  We could
really use it.

--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com

Re: Fwd: Publishing PG docs

От
Josh Berkus
Дата:
On 07/28/2015 05:33 PM, Kisung Kim wrote:
> Dear Josh Berkus
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> We are translating the PostgreSQL documentation into Korean now
>
> and willing to contribute the results to the community.

That's awesome!  I'm looking forward to it.

>
> And it will be also a big pleasure if we can translate the error
> messages and contribute to the community.
>
> Can you give some advises about how we can start it?

Yes, there's a translations project:
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NLS
http://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=pgtranslation/messages.git;a=summary

> Finally, our company has many developers who are analyzing the
> PostgreSQL source code
>
> and we hope to contribute to the community by developing or patching the
> engine in near future
>
> as well as the translation work.

That would be great.

--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com