Обсуждение: PostgreSQL != MSSQL
Hello I have been getting a misleading advertisement via Google Adsense almost everytime I visit a website with information about PostgreSQL and using adsense. Adsense redirects you to a Microsoft page with information about MSSQL in norwegian. This have been happening now for several weeks This is the page you get redirected to: http://www.microsoft.com/norge/servers/sql/default.mspx?wt.srch=1 And here you can see a snapshot of what I am talking about: http://www.postgresql-es.org/sites/default/files/postgresql_microsoft_1.png Should we do anything about this? -- Rafael Martinez, <r.m.guerrero@usit.uio.no> Center for Information Technology Services University of Oslo, Norway PGP Public Key: http://folk.uio.no/rafael/
Rafael Martinez wrote: > Adsense redirects you to a Microsoft page with information about MSSQL > in norwegian. This have been happening now for several weeks > > This is the page you get redirected to: > http://www.microsoft.com/norge/servers/sql/default.mspx?wt.srch=1 > > And here you can see a snapshot of what I am talking about: > http://www.postgresql-es.org/sites/default/files/postgresql_microsoft_1.png This is normal Google ad-serving policy; Microsoft probably bought ads on Postgresql's name. BTW it's not necessarily Norwegian -- that's just the language that the site serves you (browser config). -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.
> And here you can see a snapshot of what I am talking about: > http://www.postgresql-es.org/sites/default/files/postgresql_microsoft_1.png I'm amused that Microsoft cares enough about PostgreSQL to target us. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. www.pgexperts.com
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Josh Berkus<josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > >> And here you can see a snapshot of what I am talking about: >> >> http://www.postgresql-es.org/sites/default/files/postgresql_microsoft_1.png > > I'm amused that Microsoft cares enough about PostgreSQL to target us. We practically threw a party when Oracle started buying EnterpriseDB keywords :-) -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
Josh Berkus wrote: > >> And here you can see a snapshot of what I am talking about: >> http://www.postgresql-es.org/sites/default/files/postgresql_microsoft_1.png >> > > I'm amused that Microsoft cares enough about PostgreSQL to target us. > Yes M$ obviously tries to position MSSQL as a replacement for PostgreSQL.... Beware, soon they will release the sources under BSD licence! :-> Regards, Andreas
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Rafael Martinez wrote: >> >> And here you can see a snapshot of what I am talking about: >> http://www.postgresql-es.org/sites/default/files/postgresql_microsoft_1.png > > This is normal Google ad-serving policy; Microsoft probably bought ads > on Postgresql's name. > Well, this is not a big problem for me. But I think it is illegal according to the 'Editorial & Format Policies' from Google: https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=guidelines.cs&topic=9271&subtopic=9277 What they are doing is not the tipical keywords registration you do to target your ads when people search after those keywords. They are using in their ads a trademark they do not own to promote their product. regards -- Rafael Martinez, <r.m.guerrero@usit.uio.no> Center for Information Technology Services University of Oslo, Norway PGP Public Key: http://folk.uio.no/rafael/
> I'm amused that Microsoft cares enough about PostgreSQL to target us. They must feel that they're still in control of those in the US. The only adverts I get when searching on Postgres or PostgreSQL are those for EnterpriseDB and SqlManager. -- ----- http://www.globalherald.net/jb01 GlobalHerald.NET, the Smarter Social Network! (tm)
Rafael Martinez wrote: > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Rafael Martinez wrote: > >> > >> And here you can see a snapshot of what I am talking about: > >> http://www.postgresql-es.org/sites/default/files/postgresql_microsoft_1.png > > > > This is normal Google ad-serving policy; Microsoft probably bought ads > > on Postgresql's name. > > > > Well, this is not a big problem for me. But I think it is illegal > according to the 'Editorial & Format Policies' from Google: > > https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=guidelines.cs&topic=9271&subtopic=9277 Is "Postgresql" a trademark in Norway? > What they are doing is not the tipical keywords registration you do to > target your ads when people search after those keywords. They are using > in their ads a trademark they do not own to promote their product. Hmm, you're looking for ethical advertising? Good luck with that ... I suggest we get a party going or something. I kinda doubt you're going to get a lot done about getting the ad removed :-) -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 01:27:51PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > I suggest we get a party going or something. I kinda doubt you're > going to get a lot done about getting the ad removed :-) +1 for the party :) Cheers, David. -- David Fetter <david@fetter.org> http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter@gmail.com Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate
On Wednesday 1. July 2009, Rafael Martinez wrote: >Well, this is not a big problem for me. But I think it is illegal >according to the 'Editorial & Format Policies' from Google: Maybe Google has a special policy for deep-pocket clients? -- Leif Biberg Kristensen | Registered Linux User #338009 Me And My Database: http://solumslekt.org/blog/
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Andreas Pflug<pgadmin@pse-consulting.de> wrote: >> > Yes M$ obviously tries to position MSSQL as a replacement for > PostgreSQL.... > Beware, soon they will release the sources under BSD licence! > :-> > excellent if that happens!!! we can start to tell people who wants info on database programming: "go read that code and learn how you *don't* have to do things" -- Atentamente, Jaime Casanova Soporte y capacitación de PostgreSQL Asesoría y desarrollo de sistemas Guayaquil - Ecuador Cel. +59387171157
r.m.guerrero@usit.uio.no (Rafael Martinez) writes: > This is the page you get redirected to: > http://www.microsoft.com/norge/servers/sql/default.mspx?wt.srch=1 > > And here you can see a snapshot of what I am talking about: > http://www.postgresql-es.org/sites/default/files/postgresql_microsoft_1.png > > Should we do anything about this? The AdSense configuration could be set up to filter such things out... <https://www.google.com/adsense/filter-online> "The Competitive Ad Filter enables you to block specific ads, such as competitors' ads, from appearing on your pages. Entering a more general URL will block a wider range of ads; entering a more specific URL will block a smaller range of ads." If one wished to block Microsoft ads, one might certainly do so. There is a potential for an "arms race" of changing domain names: if Microsoft were strongly bent on getting listed, they could use a different domain that mightn't match "microsoft.com", and this could progress in regrettable ways. -- "cbbrowne","@","acm.org" http://linuxfinances.info/info/spiritual.html "In America, we have a two-party system. There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called - bipartisanship." -- Republican congressional staffer