Обсуждение: Linuxday 2007 visit in Berlin
Hello all,
I'm back from my one-day trip to the Linuxday 2007, this year in
Berlin. The German PG User Group was not present with a booth. My trip
was (among other things) to decide, if we will have a booth next year.
Judging last and this years visitors, the LD seems to be back in
business, so i recommend to be present in 2008.
The different BSD groups want to organize some more presence and have
asked, if we want to join them in something like "BSD use cases".
Sounds interesting to me, also because the BSD groups did a great job
with flyer sponsoring (they have some really good PostgreSQL flyers
available) in the past and helped out from time to time, if we had to
leave the booth for a short time. The BSD people have the same problem
as the PostgreSQL people: it seems, that many companies are using
PostgreSQL. But since the BSD license does not require to publish the
source or even tell the customer, what OS/database is used, almost
nobody knows about BSD/PostgreSQL. Why do we know? From time to time,
this companies have a problem they cannot solve and then they are
asking in a forum, on a mailinglist or even on IRC. But we should not
wait until problems appear, if we want to know about the PostgreSQL
usage in companies.
GIS is a very hot theme: the freeGIS group was present, flightgear is
using PG and GIS for storing map data. Intevation GmbH is providing GIS
solutions and support for authorities.
Kind regards
--
Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum
German PostgreSQL User Group
Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm back from my one-day trip to the Linuxday 2007, this year in > Berlin. The German PG User Group was not present with a booth. My trip > was (among other things) to decide, if we will have a booth next year. > > Judging last and this years visitors, the LD seems to be back in > business, so i recommend to be present in 2008. > Wait until the LinuxTag is over. We don't have an overview jet. One good day doesn't mean, that the other days are not only exhibiting persons will have fun with exhibiting persons. As you remember, we canceled LinuxTag because we have had to much exhibitions for too little personal last year. Also there was nobody, who has had time and wanted to pay the costs for the hotel and the traveling to make a booth there this year. Remember, I searched a guy, who can make a talk at the LinuxTag and I didn't found one. After the LinuxTag, we can collect all reports, we'll get and decide this for the next year. Ok? > The different BSD groups want to organize some more presence and have > asked, if we want to join them in something like "BSD use cases". > Sounds interesting to me, also because the BSD groups did a great job > with flyer sponsoring (they have some really good PostgreSQL flyers > available) in the past and helped out from time to time, if we had to > leave the booth for a short time. The BSD people have the same problem > as the PostgreSQL people: it seems, that many companies are using > PostgreSQL. But since the BSD license does not require to publish the > source or even tell the customer, what OS/database is used, almost > nobody knows about BSD/PostgreSQL. Why do we know? From time to time, > this companies have a problem they cannot solve and then they are > asking in a forum, on a mailinglist or even on IRC. But we should not > wait until problems appear, if we want to know about the PostgreSQL > usage in companies. > That sounds good on the one hand. But on the other hand it will looks like PostgreSQL has married BSD. I think, we need new blood. At the moment we have just too little personal and we all have less time to finish much stuff. I like the BSD guys, and on every exhibition, that we have had, I worked most likely together with the BSD guys. Thanks to them, that they have flyers, that we never finished and all other stuff that they made to help us. > GIS is a very hot theme: the freeGIS group was present, flightgear is > using PG and GIS for storing map data. Intevation GmbH is providing GIS > solutions and support for authorities. > I know, that the BSD guys are promoting PostgreSQL and I'll hope, that the FlightGear guys will promote it too. Thanks Andreas, that you visited the LinuxTag. Susanne -- Susanne Ebrecht, 52066 Aachen, Germany
Hi Andreas, >GIS is a very hot theme: the freeGIS group was present, flightgear is >using PG and GIS for storing map data. Intevation GmbH is providing GIS >solutions and support for authorities. We have an open source solution geGIS with a working demo on http://www.gegis.org/gegis/application.do?app=demo under GPL license. We are using PostgreSQL to store the data. In the demo only data of one community is shipped, but there are wizards to store your own data. geGIS is an aggregation of different open source solutions, where PostgreSQL is one off for data storage. Our own core product, 'MAJAS' is in prerelease downloadable on http://www.cadrie.com/ If you're interested, we can give a talk on FOSDEM in why choosing PostgreSQL as one of the components. (we've met on FOSDEM early this year ...) sincerly Dirk Frigne W: www.dfc.be www.gegis.org www.cadrie.com www.frigne.be >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: pgsql-advocacy-owner@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-advocacy- >owner@postgresql.org] Namens Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum >Verzonden: vrijdag 1 juni 2007 15:49 >Aan: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org >Onderwerp: [pgsql-advocacy] Linuxday 2007 visit in Berlin > > >Hello all, > >I'm back from my one-day trip to the Linuxday 2007, this year in >Berlin. The German PG User Group was not present with a booth. My trip >was (among other things) to decide, if we will have a booth next year. > >Judging last and this years visitors, the LD seems to be back in >business, so i recommend to be present in 2008. > >The different BSD groups want to organize some more presence and have >asked, if we want to join them in something like "BSD use cases". >Sounds interesting to me, also because the BSD groups did a great job >with flyer sponsoring (they have some really good PostgreSQL flyers >available) in the past and helped out from time to time, if we had to >leave the booth for a short time. The BSD people have the same problem >as the PostgreSQL people: it seems, that many companies are using >PostgreSQL. But since the BSD license does not require to publish the >source or even tell the customer, what OS/database is used, almost >nobody knows about BSD/PostgreSQL. Why do we know? From time to time, >this companies have a problem they cannot solve and then they are >asking in a forum, on a mailinglist or even on IRC. But we should not >wait until problems appear, if we want to know about the PostgreSQL >usage in companies. > >GIS is a very hot theme: the freeGIS group was present, flightgear is >using PG and GIS for storing map data. Intevation GmbH is providing GIS >solutions and support for authorities. > > >Kind regards > >-- > Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum >German PostgreSQL User Group > > >---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to > choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not > match
Also sprach Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum (adsmail@wars-nicht.de) > I'm back from my one-day trip to the Linuxday 2007, this year in > Berlin. The German PG User Group was not present with a booth. My trip > was (among other things) to decide, if we will have a booth next year. Just FTA: every visitor got a bag with some advocacy stuff. In this bag was also the current issue of the "UpTimes", the members magazine of the German Unix User Group (www.guug.de). This UpTimes featured an article by me, titled: "Backing up PpostgreSQL data" and introduced some ways of backup, like pg_dump, PITR/WAL, pgpool and copying the cluster. So each visitor got some advocacy of PostgreSQL for free ;-) I also made some advocacy for PostgreSQL in my Bacula presentation ;-) The article (in German) can be found at: http://net-tex.dnsalias.org/~stefan/nt/netbsd/advocacy/guug-uptimes-postgresql.pdf > Judging last and this years visitors, the LD seems to be back in > business, so i recommend to be present in 2008. Since I have never been before to a LinuxTag, I cannot judge the amount of visitors. But it seemed to be OK and the effort of getting to Berlin from Magdeburg was worth it. There was more audience at Chemnitz, but it differed a lot. In Berlin, we had more "professional" questions, rather than the obvious "what's the difference between NetBSD and Linux". However, I would suggest to create some PostgreSQL-Day at the LinuxTag. The next LT will be in Berlin too and since last year, a BSD-Day is held there. On friday, one track of BSD-related talks is given. I think it should be possible to get 6 - 8 PostgreSQL related talks so that we can make use of the advocacy effect of the LinuxTag. So any volunteers, wo can offer a talk? I can do one, so we need 5 - 7 more talks ;-) Once we are sure that we can fill the track, I would inquire the program committee about a PostgreSQL Day. > The different BSD groups want to organize some more presence and have > asked, if we want to join them in something like "BSD use cases". > Sounds interesting to me, also because the BSD groups did a great job > with flyer sponsoring (they have some really good PostgreSQL flyers > available) in the past and helped out from time to time, if we had to > leave the booth for a short time. The BSD people have the same problem > as the PostgreSQL people: it seems, that many companies are using > PostgreSQL. But since the BSD license does not require to publish the > source or even tell the customer, what OS/database is used, almost > nobody knows about BSD/PostgreSQL. Why do we know? From time to time, > this companies have a problem they cannot solve and then they are > asking in a forum, on a mailinglist or even on IRC. But we should not > wait until problems appear, if we want to know about the PostgreSQL > usage in companies. Getting more case studies is a clear task for the future. Hubert Feyrer gave a status report of NetBSD and mentioned some companies that use NetBSD as a base for there commercial products. Often they do not talk about this and only print some sentences of the ad clause in their manual. IMO we should ask companies that (might) use PG if they are willing to offer some more infomration on that. It helps to improve PostgreSQL, and since they already use PG, they will also benefit from that. But unfortunately, some companies follow a non-diclosure policy on that toppic. BTW: some pictures taken by me can be found at http://net-tex.dnsalias.org/~stefan/gallery/LinuxTag2007/ -- PGP FPR: CF74 D5F2 4871 3E5C FFFE 0130 11F4 C41E B3FB AE33 http://www.net-tex.de http://www.cryptomancer.de -- Worum haben die Menschen von Kindesbeinen an gebetet, wovon haben sie geträumt, womit haben sie sich gequält? Daß irgendeiner ihnen ein für allemal sage, was das Glück ist, und sie mit einer Kette an dieses Glück schmiede. Und ist dies nicht gerade das, was wir tun? Der uralte Traum vom Paradies ... Jewgenij Iwanowitsch Samjatin, »Wir«