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The server lacks instrumentation functions

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Thomas Vatter
Дата:
When connection to the server with pgadmin3 there is a warning:
"The server lacks instrumentation functions ..."
There may be something wrong with my installation.
The server is version 8.1.4, it is the version for sles9 downloaded as
rpms from suse.



Re: The server lacks instrumentation functions

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Jim Nasby
Дата:
On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Thomas Vatter wrote:
> When connection to the server with pgadmin3 there is a warning:
> "The server lacks instrumentation functions ..."
> There may be something wrong with my installation.
> The server is version 8.1.4, it is the version for sles9 downloaded as
> rpms from suse.

I don't know, but I'm sure someone on the pgAdmin (not pgsql-admin)
list could help. :)
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Re: The server lacks instrumentation functions

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Guillaume Lelarge
Дата:
Jim Nasby a ecrit le 22/09/2006 04:52:
> On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Thomas Vatter wrote:
>> When connection to the server with pgadmin3 there is a warning:
>> "The server lacks instrumentation functions ..."
>> There may be something wrong with my installation.
>> The server is version 8.1.4, it is the version for sles9 downloaded as
>> rpms from suse.
>
> I don't know, but I'm sure someone on the pgAdmin (not pgsql-admin) list
> could help. :)

A package has to be installed on the server. admin81 is its name. You
can find more infos on :
   http://www.pgadmin.org/docs/1.4/extend.html

Regards.


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Re: The server lacks instrumentation functions

От
August Zajonc
Дата:
Guillaume Lelarge wrote:
> Jim Nasby a ecrit le 22/09/2006 04:52:
>> On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Thomas Vatter wrote:
>>> When connection to the server with pgadmin3 there is a warning:
>>> "The server lacks instrumentation functions ..."
>>> There may be something wrong with my installation.
>>> The server is version 8.1.4, it is the version for sles9 downloaded as
>>> rpms from suse.
>>
>> I don't know, but I'm sure someone on the pgAdmin (not pgsql-admin)
>> list could help. :)
>
> A package has to be installed on the server. admin81 is its name. You
> can find more infos on :
>   http://www.pgadmin.org/docs/1.4/extend.html
>

Which really should be integrated into the main distribution. MySQL gets
it very right here, and comes out of the box with some better standard
instrumentation.

Re: The server lacks instrumentation functions

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"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
August Zajonc wrote:
> Guillaume Lelarge wrote:
>> Jim Nasby a ecrit le 22/09/2006 04:52:
>>> On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Thomas Vatter wrote:
>>>> When connection to the server with pgadmin3 there is a warning:
>>>> "The server lacks instrumentation functions ..."
>>>> There may be something wrong with my installation.
>>>> The server is version 8.1.4, it is the version for sles9 downloaded as
>>>> rpms from suse.
>>> I don't know, but I'm sure someone on the pgAdmin (not pgsql-admin)
>>> list could help. :)
>> A package has to be installed on the server. admin81 is its name. You
>> can find more infos on :
>>   http://www.pgadmin.org/docs/1.4/extend.html
>>
>
> Which really should be integrated into the main distribution. MySQL gets
> it very right here, and comes out of the box with some better standard
> instrumentation.

It is integrated into the main distribution. It is in contrib and you
can add them as you like.

Joshua D. Drake


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Re: The server lacks instrumentation functions

От
August Zajonc
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> August Zajonc wrote:
>> Guillaume Lelarge wrote:
>>> Jim Nasby a ecrit le 22/09/2006 04:52:
>>>> On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Thomas Vatter wrote:
>>>>> When connection to the server with pgadmin3 there is a warning:
>>>>> "The server lacks instrumentation functions ..."
>>>>> There may be something wrong with my installation.
>>>>> The server is version 8.1.4, it is the version for sles9
>>>>> downloaded as
>>>>> rpms from suse.
>>>> I don't know, but I'm sure someone on the pgAdmin (not pgsql-admin)
>>>> list could help. :)
>>> A package has to be installed on the server. admin81 is its name. You
>>> can find more infos on :
>>>   http://www.pgadmin.org/docs/1.4/extend.html
>>>
>>
>> Which really should be integrated into the main distribution. MySQL gets
>> it very right here, and comes out of the box with some better standard
>> instrumentation.
>
> It is integrated into the main distribution. It is in contrib and you
> can add them as you like.
>
Apologies for the shortness of my tone. This has just been something
that has bothered me for a bit.

I see it's made it into /contrib, which is fantastic news! Dave I think
actually wrote me about this possibility a while back, so great to see
that it has happened!

Many of the distributions[1] still haven't picked up the adminpack, so
from a casual end users perspective installing the adminpack has been
non-trivial. I suspect for the person asking the question it actually
remains so even today. Remember that many people are doing binary
installs from a distribution. Last time I looked adminpack didn't use
PGXS either, though that too may have changed :)

Anyways, hopefully all this will be fixed in the 8.2 cycle and the
adminpack will become more available everywhere.

The reason this is interesting to me is that for me, instrumentation
really seemed like a core thing that one would want in a database. Most
other databases shipped with a standard interface exposing a fair bit of
info. Oracle is ridiculous in this way, but MySQL has some standard
basics as well. This meant that many management tools picked up that
exported set of information, because it was standardized and they could
count on it. The pg adminpack was really driven by pgadmin development,
and historically one had to go through pgadmin to get it.

Good news,

- August

[1] OpenSuSE, Fedora Dev, Mandriva

Re: The server lacks instrumentation functions

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Tom Lane
Дата:
August Zajonc <augustz@augustz.com> writes:
> The reason this is interesting to me is that for me, instrumentation
> really seemed like a core thing that one would want in a database.

AFAICS, contrib/adminpack has approximately nothing to do with
"instrumentation".

            regards, tom lane