Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

On 2017-05-20 14:23, Raymond O'Donnell wrote:
> On 20/05/17 11:17, richard@xentu.com wrote:
>> On 2017-05-19 14:45, richard@xentu.com wrote:
>>> On 2017-05-19 14:20, Adam Brusselback wrote:
>>>>> I seriously may go back to PostgreSQL 9.3 so that I can use pgAdmin
>>>> III until I can wean myself off the tool.
>>>>  You don't have to revert your database version to use pgadmin III,
>>>> the newest release works fine with Postgres 9.6, and there is also 
>>>> the
>>>> BigSQL fork of pgadmin III which as far as I know will continue to
>>>> support new releases.
>>> 
>>> Could anyone clarify this for me?
>>> 
>>> PostgreSQL & pgadmin are distinct projects right?
>>> 
>>> I installed pgadmin 4 on a windows machine earlier this week and,
>>> leaving aside the fact that I dislike it, the installation worked.
>>> Today I tried to find out how to install pgadmin 4 on a Linux machine
>>> and I could only find installation methods that seemed to install all
>>> of postgresql, both server & client application. Is this just my
>>> misunderstanding of what's available?
>> 
>> I don't think I expressed myself accurately enough in my above post.
>> 
>> When I've installed postgresql previously, I think pgadmin3 was 
>> installed at the same time. Certainly this was the case for a recent 
>> install I did on Windows. As far as I know, until now, postgresql 
>> hasn't needed python on the server. If I download the windows 
>> postgresql installer, and pgadmin4 is by default included, then it 
>> means python must also be getting installed.
>> 
>> That's what I was concerned about when previously asking if the two 
>> projects were distinct.
> 
> Yes, the two projects are distinct. However, third-party PostgreSQL
> installers may bundle them - for example, the Windows one from
> EnterpriseDB installs pgAdmin too (or at least it used to - I haven't
> used Windows since before pgAdmin 4 was released, so my information
> may be out of date).
> 
>> Somebody please correct me, if in fact, even the server component 
>> requires python. Seems like bloat otherwise.
> 
> No, the server is written in C so it doesn't require Python (unless of
> course you're using PL/Python).
> 
> Ray.
> 
> --
> Raymond O'Donnell :: Galway :: Ireland
> rod@iol.ie

Thanks for the clarification Ray, that's the answer I was hoping for.

So, it really doesn't matter if the pgadmin developers go off in some 
fresh direction. I like to work with multiple windows all open at the 
same time, and like the snappy feel of a native application. I usually 
use several tools & editors at once, of which talking to a database in 
sql is the simplest. I therefore want a database tool taking up the 
least possible screen space.

If pgadmin is no longer that tool, plenty of others are available.