Re: The case for the One-Click Installer
От | Greg Smith |
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Тема | Re: The case for the One-Click Installer |
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Msg-id | alpine.GSO.2.01.0907091523250.7826@westnet.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: The case for the One-Click Installer (Joshua Kramer <josh@globalherald.net>) |
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Re: The case for the One-Click Installer
(Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>)
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Список | pgsql-advocacy |
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009, Joshua Kramer wrote: > Would having a bare-bones installer, that installed the contrib packages (but > did not insert them into template1) be a benefit? Somebody might be able to do something with them. But as Joshua was pointing out, the root problem here is not a source code one, it's a manpower one. The MSI installer was itself a viable codebase to work from if there were people who wanted to do it. EDB's one-click installer stack is completely open-source and anybody else could replicate what they do given enough people and resources to work on it. If that weren't the case, I'd be among those shouting from the rooftops that there's a serious problem here. The only problem that's worth solving here is finding those resources. I don't know exactly how EDB's work has gotten carved up there, but I know my own multi-platform forays suggest that the Windows builds take a disproportionate amount of resources to maintain compared to ones based on RPM and deb formats. On a gross level there's three chunks of work here: 1) Getting the installer working on any platform 2) Building and testing on Windows platforms 3) Building and testing on UNIX platforms Dave suggested there was 3 man-months worth of work just to get 8.4 out the door here. If you cut the work down to "one-click installers only for Windows", basically eliminating just (3) out of the above, I doubt you'll discover that reduces the amount of time required to support things in a linear way--where the job scales based on the total number of platforms supported. There's both the overhead of packaging anything and the heavy Windows overhead relative to other platforms to consider. As someone who has a good feel for how much work is involved, I really appreciate the work Dave and the rest of the EDB team involved does to make a good PostgreSQL product for Windows. I don't think many people here have a full feel for how hard it is to run a software QA effort against a complicated product. And while I don't directly use the one-click installer myself on the Linux platforms I mainly use, having it as an option does seem to provide some value to new users in particular. I'm really disappointed at how little respect for that work and its value to the community is being shown the last few days here. Obviously it would be better if that were done by volunteers or with a no-strings attached sponsorship, but just recognizing that fact doesn't make those resources appear. -- * Greg Smith gsmith@gregsmith.com http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD
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