Re: [mail] Re: Windows Build System

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Lamar Owen wrote:

> On Thursday 30 January 2003 13:17, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Lamar Owen wrote:
> > > Vince, I would say that we, the developers of PostgreSQL, are then not
> > > qualified to test our own releases for the reasons you mentioned that
> > > Katie should not test her own releases.
>
> > Don't twist what I said.  My statement about Katie was that she has a
> > knowledge of the port and the OS to the point where there are things
> > that she knows are wrong to do and would avoid doing it.
>
> Then she would not be honestly testing, would she?

She consider herself testing to her own standards as a windows user/
developer.  Is that enough?  IMO, No.  I've been on both sides know
that the windows user/developer doesn't hold things to the same standards
as the unix user/developer.

> > admission they haven't been doing that.  All they've done is loaded it
> > down and made sure it continued to work.  The other ports have a long
> > history, the windows port has ZERO history.
>
> Do we do powerfail testing on a unix-type port now?  That's not testing the
> port, incidentally, it's testing the OS, sync semantics aside.  Do we hold
> the other ports to the same standards?  Yes, the Win32 port is a substantial
> change from the Unix ports.  Yes, it needs robust testing.  But all the ports
> need that same grade of testing, not just Win32.  And that type of testing is
> not being rigorously done on any port now, unless it is being done by a few
> that aren't announcing that they are doing it.

Since you're pretty much ignoring my reasoning, I'll give you the same
consideration.  The history of windows as a platform has shown itself
to be rather fragile compared to unix.

Before you respond to this, read Tom Lane's response and reply to that.

Vince.
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