Re: POC for a function trust mechanism
От | David Kohn |
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Тема | Re: POC for a function trust mechanism |
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Msg-id | CAJhMaBgKX02GnhSe1HeG2wLMw6L_E66ouF1VLSR=Us-8sWWvRw@mail.gmail.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: POC for a function trust mechanism (Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>) |
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Re: POC for a function trust mechanism
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On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:11 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
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> The things that we hadn't resolved, which is why this didn't get further
> than POC stage, were
>
> (1) What's the mechanism for declaring trust? In this POC, it's just
> a GUC that you can set to a list of role names, with $user for yourself
> and "public" if you want to trust everybody. It's not clear if that's
> good enough, or if we want something a bit more locked-down.
Yes, works for me.
> (2) Is trust transitive? Where and how would the list of trusted roles
> change? Arguably, if you call a SECURITY DEFINER function, then once
> you've decided that you trust the function owner, actual execution of the
> function should use the function owner's list of trusted roles not yours.
> With the GUC approach, it'd be necessary for SECURITY DEFINER functions
> to implement this with a "SET trusted_roles" clause, much as they now
> have to do with search_path. That's possible but it's again not very
> non-invasive, so we'd been speculating about automating this more.
> If we had, say, a catalog that provided the desired list of trusted roles
> for every role, then we could imagine implementing that context change
> automatically. Likewise, stuff like autovacuum or REINDEX would want
> to run with the table owner's list of trusted roles, but the GUC approach
> doesn't really provide enough infrastructure to know what to do there.
I can't think of any other places we do transitive permissions, except
for role membership. I don't see the logic in adding such transitivity
to function/operator calls, or even a per-function GUC. I assume most
sites have a small number of extensions installed by a predefined group
of users, usually superusers. If there is a larger group, a group role
should be created and those people put in the role, and the group role
trusted.
I am wondering how this will interact with the inheritance of roles. For instance, if two users are members of the same role, and one creates a function the expectation would be that other users in the same role will not trust that function. However, do I trust functions that are owned by the roles that I am a member of? Or do I have to list any nested roles explicitly? If the former, I suppose we'd have to modify how alter function set owner works. It is currently allowed for roles that you are a member of (and would then create a security hole). However, not trusting functions owned by roles that I am a member of seems to also be a bit counterintuitive.
Best,
David
David
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