Re: Archiving of pgsql-announce

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:42 PM Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> * Jonathan S. Katz (jkatz@postgresql.org) wrote:
> > On 11/23/20 5:28 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > > With the changes to pgsql-announce made a couple of months ago to have
> > > it synced up with the news on www.postgresql.org, we are now
> > > "archiving" news posts both on www.postgresql.org/about/newsarchive/
> > > and on www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-announce, with the second one
> > > archiving it without the formatting.
> > >
> > > I suggest that we stop the archiving of the list itself, and stick to
> > > just the news archive. We can also update the list description to
> > > explicitly say this with a link back of course.
> > >
> > > (We will of course continue to *send* it to the list, I'm just talking
> > > about the archives)
> > >
> > > AFAICT the only actual lost functionality in this would be that you
> > > can't get old news in mbox format.
> >
> > -1; I think it may cause confusion to people who are subscribed to the
> > mailing lists who are looking up things that may be in the mailing list
> > archives.
> >
> > Additionally, the email did technically go over the mailing list, and
> > per our archives policy[1], "this site is intended to provide an
> > accurate representation of the activity on the lists, and as such will
> > not be modified."
> >
> > While I love our new news system, I think the archives are supposed to
> > serve the purpose of being the mailing list archives, and if we are
> > sending out mail over a public mailing list, we should archive it.
> >
> > Additionally, the 3rd party mailing list aggregators are going to keep
> > archiving it anyway, so we may as well maintain the canonical source of
> > truth.
>
> +1 to all of the above, and I know that I, at least, would get annoyed
> at having to remember that I can't find the archive of an email that
> was sent to -announce because we wanted to save, what, a few megs a
> year?
>
> So, -1 to the proposal for my part too.

Oh, it's not about saving space, it's about not having the same
information in multiple places. Call it normalization if you will :)

That said, I think we've collected enough -1's to it to say that we
shouldn't do it. (And I assume in this that Adrian meant to "+1 the
-1" -- if that was the wrong interpretation, please let me know).

 Thanks for playing!

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