Re: change password_encryption default to scram-sha-256?
| От | Magnus Hagander |
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| Тема | Re: change password_encryption default to scram-sha-256? |
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| Ответ на | Re: change password_encryption default to scram-sha-256? ("Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>) |
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Re: change password_encryption default to scram-sha-256?
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On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 2:38 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote:
On 4/8/19 8:19 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 2019-04-08 13:52, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>> Yeah, if we're not going to do it now we should announce that we will
>> do it in the next release.
>
> Targeting PG13 seems reasonable.
Yeah, that would be fairly consistent with how we usually do htings
Counter-argument: SCRAM has been available for 2 years since 10 feature
freeze, there has been a lot of time already given to implement support
for it. Given is at least 5 months until PG12 comes out, and each of the
popular drivers already has patches in place, we could default it for 12
and let them know this is a reality.
You can't really count feature freeze, you have to count release I think. And basically we're saying they had 2 years. Which in itself would've been perfectly reasonable, *if we told them*. But we didn't.
I think the real question is, is it OK to give them basically 5months warning, by right now saying if you don't have a release out in 6 months, things will break.
Given it's superior to the existing methods, it'd be better to encourage
the drivers to get this in place sooner. Given what I know about md5,
I've tried to avoid building apps with drivers that don't support SCRAM.
That said, that would be an aggressive approach, so I would not object
to changing the default for PG13 and giving 17 months vs. 5, but we do
let md5 persist that much longer.
I think we definitely should not make it *later* than 13.
Maybe we should simply reach out to those driver developers, it's not that many of them after all, and *ask* if they would think it's a problem if we change it in 12.
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