Re: First draft of the PG 15 release notes
От | Amit Kapila |
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Тема | Re: First draft of the PG 15 release notes |
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Msg-id | CAA4eK1K+zWbSEZHgeoL4ok=hA7+-=EGiJzpw-DZODw0NUoP9zg@mail.gmail.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: First draft of the PG 15 release notes (Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>) |
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Re: First draft of the PG 15 release notes
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Список | pgsql-hackers |
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 9:18 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 08:24:53AM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote: > > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 6:02 AM Euler Taveira <euler@eulerto.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 11:12:54AM -0300, Euler Taveira wrote: > > > OB> On Thu, May 12, 2022, at 11:03 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > > I looked at that but thought that everyone would already assume we > > > > skipped replication of empty transactions, and I didn't see much impact > > > > for the user, so I didn't include it. > > > > > > > > It certainly has an impact on heavy workloads that replicate tables with few > > > > modifications. It receives a high traffic of 'begin' and 'commit' messages that > > > > the previous Postgres versions have to handle (discard). I would classify it as > > > > a performance improvement for logical replication. Don't have a strong opinion > > > > if it should be mentioned or not. > > > > > > Oh, so your point is that a transaction that only has SELECT would > > > previously send an empty transaction? I thought this was only for apps > > > that create literal empty transactions, which seem rare. > > > > > > No. It should be a write transaction. If you have a replication setup that > > > publish only table foo (that isn't modified often) and most of your > > > workload does not contain table foo, Postgres sends 'begin' and 'commit' > > > messages to subscriber even if there is no change to replicate. > > > > > > > It reduces network traffic and improves performance by 3-14% on simple > > tests [1] like the one shown by Euler. I see a value in adding this as > > for the workloads where it hits, it seems more than 99% of network > > traffic [2] is due to these empty messages. > > I see the point now --- new item: > > <!-- > Author: Amit Kapila <akapila@postgresql.org> > 2022-03-30 [d5a9d86d8] Skip empty transactions for logical replication. > --> > > <listitem> > <para> > Prevent logical replication of empty transactions (Ajin Cherian, > Hou Zhijie, Euler Taveira) > </para> > > <para> > Previously, write transactions would send empty transactions to > subscribers if subscribed tables were not modified. > </para> > </listitem> > Thanks! -- With Regards, Amit Kapila.
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