Re: Idea for a secondary list server

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> Josh,
>
> * Josh Berkus (josh@agliodbs.com) wrote:
>> Because of the difficulty in deleting lists, and because of the
>> administrative overhead per list, the admins have to be fairly
>> restrictive about adding lists to the @postgresql.org majordomo server.
>
> Uh, the issue isn't that it's technically difficult to delete lists,
> it's that it's nearly impossible *politically*.  Using mailman isn't
> going to fix that.  Neither is the concern, when it comes to new tools,
> etc, that those who would be most welcome and interested in such a topic
> likely don't want to follow yet another mailing list and therefore would
> prefer that the discussion happen using the existing lists.
>
> Perhaps I've missed it, but a request to move an existing *active* list
> from pgfoundry over to the @postgresql.org list system wouldn't suffer
> from these concerns and would therefore, I expect, be implemented with
> much less discussion.
>
> Further, we could certainly host a mailman instance (actually, we
> already run a number of them for various reasons); there's no reason to
> involve OSL (who would be a much better resource for us by providing
> hardware and hosting than by running a mailman instance, but they've
> been less than anxious to do so and that does not encourage me to look
> to them for other hosting).
>
>> This would get us a secondary list server where we could create lists
>> with fewer restrictions than our main listserv, without needing to add
>> to the workload of the sysadmins or give untrusted people admin
>> credentials.  User support for this listserv could even be done by folks
>> not in the current sysadmin pool (like me).
>
> Having a slew of not used mailing lists would not be beneficial to the
> community in general, in my opinion.  Again, the issue is less about
> the workload and more about the concern of having far more lists than
> make any sense, 90+% of which are essentially dead.

I agree entirely.

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