Re: PGXN Hosting

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner
<stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> wrote:
> On 05/11/2011 09:25 PM, David E. Wheeler wrote:
>>
>> On May 11, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>>
>>>> Looks like 5.12.3 has been built for sid:
>>>>
>>>>   http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=perl
>>>>
>>>> Is that do-able? Would save me some effort to use that (effort better
>>>> spent on community auth integration).
>>>
>>> I would stringly prefer to stay on 5.10 from squeeze if that is doable,
>>> manual backporting of such a huge package like perl with its millions of
>>> forward and reverse dependencies will cause no end of pain :(
>>> Running the (available) postgresql 9.0 backport is a breeze compared to
>>> that however.
>>
>> Well, if I could compile 5.12, I'd install it in /usr/local/. No need to
>> replace the system Perl at all. That's how I generally work with this stuff:
>> Leave the system Perl for system tasks; build my own Perl for the apps I
>> build.
>
> yeah and now the fun starts... "ok we use the packaged postgresql - in need
> plperl in ther to be 5.12", "we cannot use the packaged DBD::Pg because that
> one needs to be compiled agains 5.12 as well", "an oh because it is simpled
> we cannot use any packaged perl lib at all because it is so much easier if I
> just install my own copy that will never be security tracked".
> We(mostly magnus) basically spent man years to get the new infrastructure up
> and long term maintainable and having to start supporting random hand
> compiled complex packages (again) on them does not sound like the right
> thing to do - it is where we came from and we defintely dont want to get
> back there.
> If it really needs perl 5.12 (and maybe other stuff) I would rather think it
> is better to keep pgxn as a seperate entity for the time being.
> Infrastructure is all about reliability, sustainability and manageability -
> that often does not mix too well with developer needs but that is how it
> is...

Well said. We can't go back to the dark times - that way madness lies.


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