Re: fixing CREATEROLE

David G. Johnston:
> A quick tally of the thread so far:
> 
> No Defaults needed: David J., Mark?, Tom?
> Defaults needed - attached to role directly: Robert
> Defaults needed - defined within Default Privileges: Walther?

s/Walther/Wolfgang

> The capability itself seems orthogonal to the rest of the patch to track 
> these details better.  I think we can "Fix CREATEROLE" without any 
> feature regarding optional default behaviors and would suggest this 
> patch be so limited and that another thread be started for discussion of 
> (assuming a default specifying mechanism is wanted overall) how it 
> should look.  Let's not let a usability debate distract us from fixing a 
> real problem.

+1

I didn't argue for whether defaults are needed in this case or not. I 
just said that ADP is better for defaults than role attributes are. Or 
the other way around: I think role attributes are not a good way to 
express those.

Personally, I'm in the No Defaults needed camp, too.

Best,

Wolfgang