Re: PostgreSQL on Power Linux

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Msg-id 88D646BA-B896-44CE-B352-7A3F683967EF@quru.com
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Ответ на Re: PostgreSQL on Power Linux  (Nikolas Everett <nik9000@gmail.com>)
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Hi Nik,

I don't disagree with your points on price of the Power platform or lack of wider adoption - however it's really kind of chicken and egg - we're only going to get wider adoption if everything falls into line. Opinion is sure to differ on what it would require but for me I would suspect you would need increased visibility that says "Postgres on Power can beat technology x hands down" - that's my bit as I don't think the wider world is aware of Power.

Regarding price and adoption - this is definitely the other big issue. I can't predict how this will go but the OpenPOWER consortium may go some way to lower pricing and wider adoption - I believe they have motherboard make Tyan engaged and whilst there is no physical product to show for it yet perhaps this could lead to white box Power solutions which would drive the cost down and hence adoption up. It would also pave the way (potentially) for competitors to IBM in the hardware space so buyers would no longer be single-sourced for their servers.

Of course it may or may not come to that - but let's get the message out there of what's possible and then see where it goes. 

James


On 26 Sep 2013, at 17:16, Nikolas Everett <nik9000@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM, James Freeman <james@quru.com> wrote:
Hi all,

I work for an Open Source consultancy and EnterpriseDB partner in London and have at my disposal for a few months an IBM Power 730 PowerLinux box. My task is to showcase the potential benefits of running Linux on a platform other than x86 and IBM are currently having a big push on their Power architecture boxes for running big data applications on Linux. However there are potentially other applications such as databases which are not currently receiving focus.

I hate to be a downer but I used to run PostgreSQL on Power running RHEL.  It was _very_ snappy.  I'm told that the performance was way better than anything else that could be purchased at the time.  The boxes were expensive (up front and ongoing cost) and the different endian-ness made it impossible to take a snapshot of production and remount it on any non-power machine.  We were also afraid of being the only people that ran PostgreSQL on RHEL on Power which didn't help matters.

Some of my problems would have gone away if there was more power adoption and some could have been mitigated with tools that no one had time to write/find.  I'm not sure what to do about the price tag complains though:)

Nik

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