Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs

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Andrew Gierth
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Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs
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Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Marko Tiikkaja <marko@joh.to>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Sv: Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Joseph Krogh <andreas@visena.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Vik Fearing <vik.fearing@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Mike Rylander <mrylander@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Jeremy Finzel <finzelj@gmail.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Lane  writes:

 Tom> I was interested to find, while writing the docs, that it's a real
 Tom> struggle to invent plausible reasons to write MATERIALIZED given
 Tom> the above specification. You pretty much have to have lied to the
 Tom> planner, eg by making a volatile function that's not marked
 Tom> volatile, before there's a real need for that. Am I missing
 Tom> something? If I'm not, then we're in a really good place
 Tom> backwards-compatibility-wise, because the new default behavior
 Tom> shouldn't break any cases where people weren't cheating.

The cases where the new default will break things are where people used
WITH to force a choice of join order or otherwise constrain the planner
in order to avoid a misplan.

I'm not sure we should nail down the rule that the absence of NOT
MATERIALIZED will mean a multiply-referenced CTE is evaluated once. One
would hope that in the future the planner might be taught to inline or
not in that case depending on cost. I think it makes more sense to say
that we never inline if MATERIALIZED is specified, that we always inline
if NOT MATERIALIZED is specified, and that if neither is specified the
planner will choose (but perhaps note that currently it always chooses
only based on refcount).

-- 
Andrew (irc:RhodiumToad)

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