Re: Collation rules and multi-lingual databases

Greg Stark <gsstark@MIT.EDU> writes:

> Dennis Gearon <gearond@fireserve.net> writes:
>
> > I think it would be nice, and I may write it eventually, to have a function
> > called:
> >
> > COLLATION_VALUE( 'string', 'encoding' )
>
> Indeed that would be really nice. I wish I had that and a pony.
>
> Unfortunately my understanding is that the collation rules are simply too
> complex to allow such a function in general. It's too bad because it would
> indeed eliminate a lot of the problems in a single swoop.

Uh, so apparently I'm on crack and this is *precisely* how the l10n collation
rules work. Sorry for jumping in with an uninformed opinion.

>    Effectively, the way these functions work is by applying a mapping to
> transform the characters in a string to a byte sequence that represents
> the string's position in the collating sequence of the current locale.
> Comparing two such byte sequences in a simple fashion is equivalent to
> comparing the strings with the locale's collating sequence.
>
>    The functions `strcoll' and `wcscoll' perform this translation
> implicitly, in order to do one comparison.  By contrast, `strxfrm' and
> `wcsxfrm' perform the mapping explicitly.  If you are making multiple
> comparisons using the same string or set of strings, it is likely to be
> more efficient to use `strxfrm' or `wcsxfrm' to transform all the
> strings just once, and subsequently compare the transformed strings
> with `strcmp' or `wcscmp'.

Given this it should be easy to write a collation_value(string,locale) C
function that switches the collation order, calls strxfrm and then restores
the collation order.

I fear memory leaks or performance losses on frequent locale switches like
this but it should be easy enough to try out. I don't see any problems with
postgres as long as it's possible to ensure the locale is always switched back
properly. It might not be thread-safe though.

At worst I could always call strxfrm in the application for each locale I care
about when inserting the data. That would bloat my tables for nothing though.

So it's looking like I might get my pony after all.

--
greg