Re: pgaudit - an auditing extension for PostgreSQL

On 2/17/15 12:07 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> My views are from working with FDA validated environments, and I don’t really understand the above.  It is not db
auditing’sjob to stop or control the access to data or to log what happens to data outside of PostgreSQL.  To audit a
dbsuperuser is very simple, keep a log of everything a super user does and to write that log to a write append, no read
filesystemor location.  Since the db superuser can do anything there is no value in configuring what to log.  This
shouldbe an option that once set, cannot be changed without reinstalling the PostgreSQL binary.  The responsibility for
auditing/controllingany binary replacement is the operating system’s, not PostgreSQL.  In this environment the db
superuserwill not have authorized root access for the os.
 
> I agree that it's not the auditing job to stop or control access to
> data, but it's not so simple to audit the superuser completely.  The
> issue is that even if you have a hard-coded bit in the binary which says
> "audit everything", a superuser can change the running code to twiddle
> that bit off, redirect the output of whatever auditing is happening,
> gain OS-level (eg: shell) access to the system and then make changes to
> the files under PG directly, etc.  Setting a bit in a binary and then
> not allowing that binary to be unchanged does not actually solve the
> issue.

If we've allowed a superuser *in the database* that kind of power at the 
OS level then we have a problem. There needs to be *something* that a 
database SU can't do at the OS level, otherwise we'll never be able to 
audit database SU activity.
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