Re: Redesigning checkpoint_segments

On 02/02/2015 04:21 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2015-02-02 08:36:41 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
>> Also, I'd like to propose that we set the default value of
>> max_checkpoint_segments/checkpoint_wal_size to something at least an
>> order of magnitude larger than the current default setting.
>
> +1

I don't agree with that principle. I wouldn't mind increasing it a 
little bit, but not by an order of magnitude. For better or worse, *all* 
our defaults are tuned toward small systems, and so that PostgreSQL 
doesn't hog all the resources. We shouldn't make an exception for this.

> I think we need to increase checkpoint_timeout too - that's actually
> just as important for the default experience from my pov. 5 minutes
> often just unnecessarily generates FPWs en masse.
>
>> I'll open the bidding at 1600MB (aka 100).
>
> Fine with me.

I wouldn't object to raising it a little bit, but that's way too high. 
It's entirely possible to have a small database that generates a lot of 
WAL. A table that has only a few rows, but is updated very very 
frequently, for example. And checkpointing such a database is quick too, 
so frequent checkpoints are not a problem. You don't want to end up with 
1.5 GB of WAL on a 100 MB database.

- Heikki