Re: Vote on Windows installer links

Simon,

> Removing links does not imply that the companies concerned will stop
> providing the files to PostgreSQL does it?

It very well might.  In the case of EDB, it probably would.  It's
certainly what I'd advise them to do.

> Stop what? Stop asking for something that a significant number and a
> clear majority of people have agreed is desirable? Why would I? I think
> the companies concerned should consider stopping.

Funny that you should have accused me of forum manipulation in the
earlier discussion about surveys.  First you structured a poll question
so vague as to be meaningless to give it universal appeal (and refused
to count anyone who took issue with the terms of the question), then are
claiming a majority mandate to require something equally vague.

As I said, the *only* thing you've established is that a substantial
group of people feel that the current One-Click installer
advertising/hosting setup is not completely ideal.  Beyond that, you've
determined *nothing*.

So the next steps, *if* you actually wanted to improve things and not
pursue a single-minded vendetta against EDB, would be to work with
members of the community *and* EDB marketing staff to determine what
specific changes need to be made to make people happier with the
marketing side of their community contribution.  Several other people
have raised several practical ideas around improvements, but I'll note
that you've ignored those, as you deliberately ignored my commentary on
the importance of One-Click for adoption (which I'll note was *also*
widely supported).

Overall: your posts on this list for the last few days (frankly, the
last few weeks) have taken on the appearance of a vendetta.  If that's
not what you intended, it's time for some *concrete* suggestions as to
what would be improvements *which take into consideration the importance
of the One-Click Installer to users*.  Otherwise, please stop dragging
the advocacy forum through the mud.

Just so everyone knows: I am once again getting private e-mails from
people who are *unsubscribing* from this mailing list because of this
discussion.  If it continues in its current tone for another day, I'll
request permission to moderate this list again.

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Josh Berkus
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