Re: PG Patch (fwd) [openserver patch followup #2]

Finally I understand the issue, I think.

But wouldn't an ordinary user on SCO wanting to install a private copy of
Pg then have to hack the Makefiles to change/remove the abolute DT_SONAME?
If so, that seems to me to mandate that this not be in the vanilla
distribution. OS Vendors commonly make changes like this in software
versions they distribute - that's a different thing from putting it in the
standard distribution, ISTM.

The benefit Larry cites seems to me to be small - presumably his Makefiles
must include "-L /usr/local/pgsql/lib", so adding
"-R /usr/local/pgsql/lib" doesn't look like a big thing. Adding an Rpath
to executables to use libs in non-standard locations is very common,
surely?

Maybe this needs to be YACO (yet another configure option)

cheers

andrew

Larry wrote
>
>
> --On Friday, July 25, 2003 11:58:18 +0200 Peter Eisentraut
> <peter_e@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> Larry Rosenman writes:
>>
>>> I disagree STRONGLY with what you are saying here.  What harm does it
>>> do to add the ABILITY for a port to use a ABSOLUTE DT_SONAME?
>>
>> We can discuss adding the ability, but I'm against enforcing it by
>> default.
>>
>>> I belive that the issue is not broken systems, but broken practice.
>>
>> No, the issue is precisely that someone is proposing to break
>> reasonable, useful practice to accomodate broken systems.  No one is
>> claiming that absolute sonames make the system more featureful or
>> useful.  In fact, it was admitted that it would have the reverse
>> effect.  The only argument for absolute sonames that was brought forth
>> was that some older systems have security holes that can be worked
>> around in this manner.
> For an example of ADDING to the usefulness, UnixWare has no ld.so.conf,
> or  ldconfig equivalent.  For ALL my PostgreSQL apps, I either need to
> specify  -R/usr/local/pgsql/lib
> on the EXECUTABLE build, or make sure there is a GLOBAL LD_LIBRARY_PATH
>  environment
> variable set.
>
> The absolute DT_SONAME will fix that issue on THIS platform, which is
> why  the ABILITY
> of an INDIVIDUAL port to set an absolute DT_SONAME would be useful.
>
> LER
>
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