Re: [Pgcluster-general] PostgreSQL Documentation of High Availability
От | Markus Schiltknecht |
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Тема | Re: [Pgcluster-general] PostgreSQL Documentation of High Availability |
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Msg-id | 4561FCBD.6050900@bluegap.ch обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | PostgreSQL Documentation of High Availability and Load Balancing (Markus Schiltknecht <markus@bluegap.ch>) |
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Re: [Pgcluster-general] PostgreSQL Documentation of
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Hi, a.mitani@sra-europe.com wrote: > I believe that shared-everything and shared-disk are cmpletely different > things. No. AFAIK, shared everything is basically a marketing term. Some vendors (especially Oracle) use it to mean 'shared disk', which is really confusing. But that's probably intentional, as it sounds good to share everything... much better than sharing nothing. Others, like GreenPlum use the term to mean 'shared memory' for example in [1], which is much more appropriate. Anyway, the term 'Shared Nothing' seems to go back to Stonebraker's paper 'The Case for Shared Nothing Architecture' [2]. There he defined these three terms: shared memory (SM): multiple processors share a common central memory shared disk (SD): multiple processors each with private memory share a common collection of disks shared nothing (SN): neither memory nor peripheral storage is shared among processors As it makes no sense to have shared memory but individual disks, no term for such a thing got defined. > Oracle has said the RAC as Shared-Everything. > Probably, the definition of the words would differ from them. It's hard to find architectural details within their documents, but AFAICS, they do something like distributed shared memory or distributed locking, which they call "Cache Fusion", see [3]. In the very same paper, they define what a Cluster is for them: "A cluster is a group of independent servers that cooperate as a single system. The primary cluster components are processor nodes, a cluster interconnect, and a shared disk subsystem. The clusters share disk access and resources that manage data, but the distinct hardware cluster nodes do not share memory." Thus, Oracle RAC seems to be a shared disk solution. Only in conjunction with their OCFS, you could probably call it a shared-nothing solution, but it's certainly not a shared-memory thing. I'd vote for explaining these terms in the PostgreSQL documentation, as there seems to be a lot of confusion regarding these terms. Regards Markus [1]: GreenPlum about Shared Nothing vs Shared Everything: http://www.greenplum.com/products/sharedNothing.php [2]: Michael Stonebraker, The Case for Shared Nothing Architecture: http://db.cs.berkeley.edu/papers/hpts85-nothing.pdf [3]: A random Oracle Paper about "Cache Fusion" (tm): http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/oracle9i/pdf/cache_fusion_rel2.pdf
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