Re: pg_upgrade: What is changed?

Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:49:05AM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
>>> 8) WAL/XLOG
>>>     Question: Should be deleted?
>> I imagine you should probably force a checkpoint and then wipe the wal
>> records. The WAL isn't going to be able to cover some of the stuff done
>> during the upgrade, so it'd be useless after anyway.
> 
> Is there any way around that? If WAL can't be trusted that means if you
> crash during update, you're hosed. Which means you need to backup the
> database before upgrading, which greatly increases downtime. Same
> applies to having to reindex everything.

By my opinion upgrade process should fail for example during catalog 
adjustment. This step probably will not have any record in the WAL and 
you will stay in the middle and ... you will start looking for backup.

> Granted, *any* kind of upgrade not requiring a dump/restore is a major
> improvement.

Any really good DBA never do upgrade without backup. It is too dangerous 
operation. By the way, you can do backup without downtime. Yes, you lost 
all data after backup. It is risk and DBA must make decision if it is 
acceptable or not.

Is possible play WAL to get lost data after backup? If yes, you can 
backup on-line database and first step of upgrade should be move WAL to 
the safe place.
    Zdenek