Re: Oracle buying Sleepycat, JBoss, and
От | Mike Ellsworth |
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Тема | Re: Oracle buying Sleepycat, JBoss, and |
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Msg-id | 43ED0783.4020400@rochester.rr.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: Oracle buying Sleepycat, JBoss, and ("Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>) |
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Re: Oracle buying Sleepycat, JBoss, and
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Robert Treat wrote:
<Of course I haven't figured out where PHP/Zend fits into this... maybe to help make php/mysql less ubiquitous. >
Just a guess - but it may be related to IBM's Open Ajax initiative.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1917665,00.asp
Presumably, web-apps are a big part of Oracle's future plans. If they own the better-known power tools, they'll be better able to control the web app "construction process" and help hatch more Salesforce dot com's, which I believe use Oracle.
Next salvo could come from Adobe/Macromedia. They'll need to enter the fray soon.
I think there is PG lemonade to be made from the lemons.
<Of course I haven't figured out where PHP/Zend fits into this... maybe to help make php/mysql less ubiquitous. >
Just a guess - but it may be related to IBM's Open Ajax initiative.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1917665,00.asp
Presumably, web-apps are a big part of Oracle's future plans. If they own the better-known power tools, they'll be better able to control the web app "construction process" and help hatch more Salesforce dot com's, which I believe use Oracle.
Next salvo could come from Adobe/Macromedia. They'll need to enter the fray soon.
I think there is PG lemonade to be made from the lemons.
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 11:41, Luke Lonergan wrote:Bruce, On 2/10/06 8:27 AM, "Bruce Momjian" <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> wrote:What they are _not_ getting involved in is software that is community controlled, like PostgreSQL or Linux, because it much harder to see how a purchase would allow tight control of the software, resulting in revenue.True.Or tight control resulting in killing the competition. Even with the death of great bridge, postgresql kept on going, and I'd say there is no company currently that has as much sway as great bridge did "way back when"I think it's clear they're going after applications again - buying many proven foundational elements of a software development stack in one gulp. What I wonder is what their next step might be - did they do this (and InnoDB) to remove competition? Or do they expect to somehow monetize a new stack?My opinion is it's all about eliminating competition. InnoDB and JBoss don't give them code that is substantially different in a market effect sense, and sleepycat has only marginal value in the embedded space compared to the $$ oracle gets in the enterprise rdbms market. However killing JBoss would kill a competitor, and getting sleepycat puts an even tighter grip on mysql. Of course I haven't figured out where PHP/Zend fits into this... maybe to help make php/mysql less ubiquitous.Is Oracle trying to become an open source company?At best they are trying to become a services company like IBM, but I still think they are just trying to slow down competition. Robert Treat
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