Re: CLUSTER and MVCC

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Tom Lane
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Re: CLUSTER and MVCC
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420.1173458189@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Re: CLUSTER and MVCC (Heikki Linnakangas)
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CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Csaba Nagy <nagy@ecircle-ag.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Csaba Nagy <nagy@ecircle-ag.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC "Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC "Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Csaba Nagy <nagy@ecircle-ag.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Csaba Nagy <nagy@ecircle-ag.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC "Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC "Mike Rylander" <mrylander@gmail.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Hannu Krosing <hannu@skype.net>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC "Simon Riggs" <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC "Zeugswetter Andreas ADI SD" <ZeugswetterA@spardat.at>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC "Simon Riggs" <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Tom Lane <tgl@redhat.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: CLUSTER and MVCC Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Heikki Linnakangas  writes:
> We wouldn't clean up tuples that are visible to a transaction, but if 
> you have one long-running transaction like pg_dump in a database with 
> otherwise short transaction, you'll have a lot of tuples that are not 
> vacuumable because of the long-running process, but are not in fact 
> visible to any transaction.

It sounds to me like you are proposing to remove the middles of update
chains, which would break READ-COMMITTED updates initiated by the older
transactions.  Now admittedly pg_dump isn't going to issue any such
updates, but VACUUM doesn't know that.
		regards, tom lane

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