Re: Replication Ideas

Are these clusters physically together using dedicate LAN lines .... or
are they synchronizing over the Interwait?

Ron Johnson wrote:

>On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:00, Jan Wieck wrote:
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>>Ron Johnson wrote:
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>>>Notes:
>>>a) this is, of course, not *sufficient* for multi-master
>>>b) yes, you need a fast, low latency network for the DLM chatter.
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>>"Fast" is an understatement. The DLM you're talking about would (in our
>>case) need to use Spread's AGREED_MESS or SAFE_MESS service type,
>>meaning guarantee of total order. A transaction that needs any type of
>>lock sends that request into the DLM group and then waits. The incoming
>>stream of lock messages determines success or failure. With the overhead
>>of these service types I don't think one single communication group for
>>all database backends in the whole cluster guaranteeing total order will
>>be that efficient.
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>I guess it's the differing protocols involved.  DEC made clustering
>(including Rdb/VMS) work over an 80Mbps protocol, back in The Day,
>and HPaq says that it works fine now over fast ethernet.
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>>>This is a tried and true method of synchronization.  DEC Rdb/VMS
>>>has been using it for 19 years as the underpinnings of it's cluster
>>>technology, and Oracle licensed it from them (well, really Compaq)
>>>for it's 9i RAC.
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>>Are you sure they're using it that way?
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>Not as sure as I am that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow,
>but, yes, I am highly confident that O modified DLM for use in
>9i RAC.  Note that O purchased Rdb/VMS from DEC back in 1994, along
>with the Engineers, so they have long knowledge of how it works
>in VMS.  One of the reasons they bought Rdb was to merge the tech-
>nology into RDBMS.
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