Re: Proposed patch for key managment

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Bruce Momjian
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Re: Proposed patch for key managment
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20201216221812.GE4527@momjian.us
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Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Masahiko Sawada <masahiko.sawada@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Masahiko Sawada <masahiko.sawada@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Neil Chen <carpenter.nail.cz@gmail.com>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Neil Chen <carpenter.nail.cz@gmail.com>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Joshua Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Neil Chen <carpenter.nail.cz@gmail.com>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Alastair Turner <minion@decodable.me>
Re: Proposed patch for key management Joshua Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Neil Chen <carpenter.nail.cz@gmail.com>
Re: Proposed patch for key managment Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 01:42:57PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 06:07:26PM +0000, Alastair Turner wrote:
> > Hi Bruce
> > 
> > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 00:12, Bruce Momjian  wrote:
> > >
> > ...
> > >
> > > The second approach is to make a new API for what you want....
> > 
> > I am trying to motivate for an alternate API. Specifically, an API
> > which allows any potential adopter of Postgres and Cluster File
> > Encryption to adopt them without having to accept any particular
> > approach to key management, key derivation, wrapping, validation, etc.
> > A passphrase key-wrapper with validation will probably be very useful
> > to a lot of people, but making it mandatory and requiring twists and
> > turns to integrate with already-established security infrastructure
> > sounds like a barrier to adoption.
> 
> Attached is a script that uses the AWS Secrets Manager, and it does key
> rotation with the new pg_altercpass tool too, just like all the other
> methods.

Attached is an improved script that does not pass the secret on the
command line.

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