Re: New default role- 'pg_read_all_data'

Greetings,

* Stephen Frost (sfrost@snowman.net) wrote:
> * Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 2:38 PM Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> > > * Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote:
> > > > Without having actually looked at the code, definite +1 for this feature.
> > > > It's much requested...
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > > But, should we also have a pg_write_all_data to go along with it?
> > >
> > > Perhaps, but could certainly be a different patch, and it'd need to be
> > > better defined, it seems to me...  read_all is pretty straight-forward
> > > (the general goal being "make pg_dumpall/pg_dump work"), what would
> > > write mean?  INSERT?  DELETE?  TRUNCATE?  ALTER TABLE?  System catalogs?
> >
> > Well, it's pg_write_all_*data*, so it certainly wouldn't be alter table or
> > system catalogs.
> >
> > I'd say insert/update/delete yes.
> >
> > TRUNCATE is always an outlier.Given it's generally classified as DDL, I
> > wouldn't include it.
>
> Alright, that seems like it'd be pretty easy.  We already have a check
> in pg_class_aclmask to disallow modification of system catalogs w/o
> being a superuser, so we should be alright to add a similar check for
> insert/update/delete just below where I added the SELECT check.
>
> > > Doesn't seem like you could just declare it to be 'allow pg_restore'
> > > either, as that might include creating untrusted functions, et al.
> >
> > No definitely not. That wouldn't be the usecase at all :)
>
> Good. :)
>
> > (and fwiw to me the main use case for read_all_data also isn't pg_dump,
> > because most people using pg_dump are already db owner or higher in my
> > experience. But it is nice that it helps with that too)
>
> Glad to have confirmation that there's other use-cases this helps with.
>
> I'll post an updated patch with that added in a day or two.

Here's that updated patch, comments welcome.

Thanks!

Stephen