Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting?
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Stephen Frost
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Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting?
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20191002073038.GG6962@tamriel.snowman.net
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Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? (David Steele)
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Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Standby accepts recovery_target_timeline setting? David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Greetings, * David Steele (david@pgmasters.net) wrote: > On 9/28/19 1:26 PM, Fujii Masao wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:51 AM David Steele wrote: > > > > Yeah, more checks would be necessary. IMO easy fix is to forbid not only > > recovery target parameters but also any recovery parameters (specified > > in recovery.conf in previous versions) in crash recovery. > > > > In v11 or before, any parameters in recovery.conf cannot take effect in > > crash recovery because crash recovery always starts without recovery.conf. > > But in v12, those parameters are specified in postgresql.conf, > > so they may take effect even in crash recovery (i.e., when both > > recovery.signal and standby.signal are missing). This would be the root > > cause of the problems that we are discussing, I think. > > > > There might be some recovery parameters that we can safely use > > even in crash recovery, e.g., maybe recovery_end_command > > (now, you can see that recovery_end_command is executed in > > crash recovery in v12). But at this stage of v12, it's worth thinking to > > just cause crash recovery to exit with an error when any recovery > > parameter is set. Thought? > > I dislike the idea of crash recovery throwing fatal errors because there > are recovery settings in postgresql.auto.conf. Since there is no > defined mechanism for cleaning out old recovery settings we have to > assume that they will persist (and accumulate) more or less forever. > > > Or if that change is overkill, alternatively we can make crash recovery > > "ignore" any recovery parameters, e.g., by forcibly disabling > > the parameters. > > I'd rather load recovery settings *only* if recovery.signal or > standby.signal is present and do this only after crash recovery is > complete, i.e. in the absence of backup_label. > > I think blindly loading recovery settings then trying to ignore them > later is pretty much why we are having these issues in the first place. > I'd rather not extend that pattern if possible. Agreed. Thanks, Stephen
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