Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes
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Stephen Frost
Тема
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes
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20170315145506.GT9812@tamriel.snowman.net
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Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes (Robert Haas)
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Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jesper Pedersen <jesper.pedersen@redhat.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jesper Pedersen <jesper.pedersen@redhat.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jesper Pedersen <jesper.pedersen@redhat.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jesper Pedersen <jesper.pedersen@redhat.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Kuntal Ghosh <kuntalghosh.2007@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jesper Pedersen <jesper.pedersen@redhat.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Write Ahead Logging for Hash Indexes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Robert, * Robert Haas (robertmhaas@gmail.com) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > > FWIW, I'm not certain that Stephen is correct to claim that we have > > some concrete problem with sparse files. We certainly don't *depend* > > on sparse storage anyplace else, nor write data in a way that would be > > likely to trigger it; but I'm not aware that we need to work hard to > > avoid it. > > That theory seems inconsistent with how mdextend() works. My > understanding is that we zero-fill the new blocks before populating > them with actual data precisely to avoid running out of disk space due > to deferred allocation at the OS level. If we don't care about > failures due to deferred allocation at the OS level, we can rip that > logic out and improve the performance of relation extension > considerably. If we do care about failures due to deferred > allocation, then leaving holes in the file is a bad idea. That is a fantastic point. Thanks! Stephen
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