Re: silent data loss with ext4 / all current versions

On 2016-03-05 07:43:00 +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
> > On 2016-03-04 14:51:50 +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 4:06 AM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
> >> Hm. OK. I don't see any reason why switching to link() even in code
> >> paths like KeepFileRestoredFromArchive() or pgarch_archiveDone() would
> >> be a problem thinking about it. Should HAVE_WORKING_LINK be available
> >> on a platform we can combine it with unlink. Is that in line with what
> >> you think?
> >
> > I wasn't trying to suggest we should replace all rename codepaths with
> > the link wrapper, just the ones that already have a HAVE_WORKING_LINK
> > check. The name of the routine I suggested is bad though...
>
> So we'd introduce a first routine rename_or_link_safe(), say replace_safe().

Or actually maybe just link_safe(), which falls back to access() &&
rename() if !HAVE_WORKING_LINK.

> > That's one approach, yes. Combined with the fact that you can't actually
> > reliably rename across directories, the two could be on different
> > filesystems after all, that'd be a suitable defense. It just needs to be
> > properly documented in the function header, not at the bottom.
>
> OK. Got it. Or the two could be on the same filesystem.

> Still, link() and rename() do not support doing their stuff on
> different filesystems (EXDEV).

That's my point ...