Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions

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Andres Freund
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Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions
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20141029160059.GB17724@awork2.anarazel.de
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Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions "Brightwell, Adam" <adam.brightwell@crunchydatasolutions.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Adam Brightwell <adam.brightwell@crunchydatasolutions.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Jeremy Harris <jgh@wizmail.org>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Adam Brightwell <adam.brightwell@crunchydatasolutions.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Adam Brightwell <adam.brightwell@crunchydatasolutions.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Adam Brightwell <adam.brightwell@crunchydatasolutions.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions "Brightwell, Adam" <adam.brightwell@crunchydatasolutions.com>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Directory/File Access Permissions for COPY and Generic File Access Functions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
On 2014-10-29 11:52:43 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Stephen Frost  wrote:
> > The specifics actually depend on (on Linux, at least) the value of
> > /proc/sys/fs/protected_hardlink, which has existed in upstream since 3.6
> > (not sure about the RHEL kernels, though I expect they've incorporated
> > it also at some point along the way).
> >
> > There is a similar /proc/sys/fs/protected_symlinks control for dealing
> > with the same kind of time-of-check / time-of-use issues that exist with
> > symlinks.
> >
> > At least on my Ubuntu 14.04 systems, these are both set to '1'.
> 
> Playing devil's advocate here for a minute, you're saying that
> new-enough versions of Linux have an optional feature that prevents
> this attack.  I think an argument could be made that this is basically
> unsecurable on any other platform, or even old Linux versions.

It's possible to do this securely by doing a fstat() and checking the
link count.

> And it
> still doesn't protect against the case where you hardlink to a file
> and then the permissions on that file are later changed.

Imo that's simply not a problem that we need to solve - it's much more
general and independent.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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