Re: Column Redaction

Rod,

* Rod Taylor (rod.taylor@gmail.com) wrote:
> For fun I gave the search a try.

Neat!

> On my laptop I can pull all 10,000 card numbers in less than 1 second. For
> a text based item I don't imagine it would be much different. Numbers are
> pretty easy to work with though.

I had been planning to give something like this a shot once I got back
from various meetings today- so thanks!  Being able to use the CC # *as*
the target for the binary search is definitely an issue, though looking
back on the overall problem space, CC's are less than 54 bits, and it's
actually a smaller space than than that if you know how they're put
together.

My thought on an attack was more along these lines:

select * from cards join (SELECT CAST(random() * 9999999999999999 AS
bigint) a from generate_series(1,1000000)) as foo on (cards.cc = foo.a);

Which could pretty quickly find ~500 CC #s in a second or so (with a
'cards' table of about 1M entries) based on my testing.  That's clearly
sufficient enough to make it a viable attack also.

The next question I have is- do(es) the other vendor(s) provide a way to
address this or is it simply known that this doesn't offer any
protection at all from adhoc queries and it's strictly for formatting?
I can certainly imagine it actually being a way to simply avoid
*inadvertant* exposure rather than providing any security from the
individual running the commands.  I'm not sure that would make it
genuinely different enough from simply maintaining a view which does
that filtering to make it useful on its own as a feature though, but I'm
not particularly strongly against it either.
Thanks!
    Stephen