Re: Measuring relation free space

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Noah Misch
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Re: Measuring relation free space
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20120114112651.GB1081@tornado.leadboat.com
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Measuring relation free space Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: a fast bloat measurement tool (was Re: Measuring relation free space) Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Bernd Helmle <mailings@oopsware.de>
Re: Measuring relation free space Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Measuring relation free space Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>
Re: Measuring relation free space Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>
Re: Measuring relation free space Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Measuring relation free space Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 04:41:57AM -0500, Jaime Casanova wrote:
> pgstattuple and relation_free_space are very close in all the numbers
> except for 2 indexes pgbench_branches_pkey and pgbench_tellers_pkey;
> after a VACUUM FULL and  a REINDEX (and the difference persistence) i
> checked pgbench_tellers_pkey contents (it has only one page besides
> the metapage) and the numbers that i look at where:
> 
> page size: 8192
> free size:  4148
> 
> which in good romance means 50% of free space... so, answering Noah's
> question: if that difference has some meaning i can't see it but
> looking at the evidence the measure relation_free_space() is giving is
> the good one
> 
> so, tomorrow (or ...looking at the clock... later today) i will update
> the relation_free_space() patch to accept toast tables and other kind
> of indexes and add it to the commitfest unless someone says that my
> math is wrong and somehow there is a more accurate way of getting the
> free space (which is entirely possible)

Did you see this followup[1]?  To summarize:

- pgstattuple() and relation_free_space() should emit the same number, even if that means improving pgstattuple() at the same time.
- relation_free_space() belongs in the pgstattuple extension, because its role is cheaper access to a single pgstattuple() metric.

Thanks,
nm

[1] http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/20111218165625.GB6393@tornado.leadboat.com

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