Re: Spoofing as the postmaster

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Bruce Momjian
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Re: Spoofing as the postmaster
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200712290344.lBT3inv08687@momjian.us
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Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Mike Rylander" <mrylander@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Marko Kreen" <markokr@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tomasz Ostrowski <tometzky@batory.org.pl>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Brendan Jurd" <direvus@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tomasz Ostrowski <tometzky@batory.org.pl>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tomasz Ostrowski <tometzky@batory.org.pl>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Trevor Talbot" <quension@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Decibel! <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Naz Gassiep <naz@mira.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Trevor Talbot" <quension@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Trevor Talbot" <quension@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Gurjeet Singh" <singh.gurjeet@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster "Brendan Jurd" <direvus@gmail.com>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spoofing as the postmaster Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Tomasz Ostrowski wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, Tom Lane wrote:
> 
> > ISTM we have these action items:
> > 1. Improve the code so that SSL authentication can be used across a
> > Unix-socket connection (we can disable encryption though).
> 
> I've just realised that there's a problem with SSL with disabled
> encryption on a unix socket / localhost connections for cpu-saving.
> Any local user using this attack would be able to eavesdrop
> everything comming through a socket.
> 
> If an attacker just acts as a tunnel, highjacking a unix-socket and
> talking to a server using any other interface (or the other way
> around), then he would not be able to modify information flow, but he
> would be able to read and save everything going to and from a server.
> It is again not obvious as normally local connections are not
> susceptible to eavesdropping. And could go unnoticed for a long time
> as everything would just work normally.
> 
> So I think no cpu-saving by turning off encryption should be done.
> 
> And this would all not help for a denial-of-service attack.

Good point.  I have added the last two sentences to the documentation
paragraph to highlight this issue:
  OpenSSL supports a wide range of ciphers  and authentication algorithms, of varying strength.  While a list of  ciphers can be specified in the OpenSSL  configuration file, you can specify ciphers specifically for use by  the database server by modifying  in  postgresql.conf</>.  It is possible to have authentication  without the overhead of encryption by using NULL-SHA</> or  NULL-MD5</> ciphers.  However, a man-in-the-middle could read  and pass communications between client and server.

--  Bruce Momjian          http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB                             http://postgres.enterprisedb.com
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