Re: [Pgsqlrpms-hackers] Safer auto-initdb for RPM init

On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 01:32:17PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> >On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 07:21:50AM -0700, Joe Conway wrote:
> >>We also decided to turn off the init script execution entirely. The DBAs 
> >>were more comfortable with a manual database startup for a production 
> >>machine anyway (this is the way they typically handle Oracle databases 
> >>also). They get paged if the server ever goes down unplanned, and in 
> >>that event they like to check things out before bringing the db back up. 
> >>For planned outages, database startup is simply part of the plan.
> >
> >I'd *really* like to have an official way to just disable the initdb
> >code entirely.
> 
> I am not exactly sure why we initdb at all. IMHO it would be better if 
> the start script just checked if there was a cluster. If not, it 
> wouldn't start, it would error with: You do not have a cluster, please 
> read man page on initdb.

As Tom mentioned, it's for newbie-friendliness. While I can understand
that, I think it needs to be easy to shut that off.
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