Re: fixing LISTEN/NOTIFY
От | Josh Berkus |
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Тема | Re: fixing LISTEN/NOTIFY |
Дата | |
Msg-id | 200510091304.07130.josh@agliodbs.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: fixing LISTEN/NOTIFY ("Neil Conway" <neilc@samurai.com>) |
Список | pgsql-hackers |
Neil, Jim, All: > Personally, I think delivering all notifications by default is simpler > behavior for the application programmer to understand. If you want to > avoid doing work for duplicate notifications, you realistically need to > implement that yourself anyway. I agree with Neil; I don't really see duplicate notifications as a problem, provided that we can deliver a message with the notice. As long as we can deliver a PK id or other unique information, then we can still use NOTIFY to do, for example, asynchronous summary counts. However, I really dislike the idea of blocking on out-of-memory NOTICEs. While I can see some DBAs wanting that, for most applications I'd want to implement, I'd rather that the NOTICE were thrown away than have it stop a query. LISTEN/NOTIFY is a asynchronous messaging mechanism, after all -- the whole idea is for it *not* to slow down transactions. Ideally, we'd have three options which could be set administratively (at startup) in postgresql.conf: notify_mem = 16384 #in K notify_mem_full = discard #one of: discard, block, or disk# discard = simply drop notices over the memory limit# block =stop queries from committing until notice memory is open# disk = spill notices to the pg_notice file You'll notice that I added a spill-to-disk on NOTIFY; I think that should be a TODO even if we don't implement it immediately. We should also have a way to detect the situation of notify_mem being full, both through log notices and by command-line function. Finally, we'd need a function for the superuser to clear all notices. I'm thinking here of my personal application for a better LISTEN/NOTIFY: using pg_memcached to store fast asynchronous materialized views. The idea would be that you could maintain a materialized view in memory that was no more than 30 seconds behind, by: [every 15 seconds]: check if there are any notices on the viewif so, regenerate the rows indicated in the notify messageif not, next check if notify_mem is fullif so, regenerate all mattviews from scratchsend clear_notices(); Hopefully people get the idea? -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
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