Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Jean-Michel POURE wrote:

> As for current PostgreSQL organization, can someone explain me which W32
> port will make its way to PostgreSQL main source code?

Whichever one actually submits patches for review first that is deemed
acceptable for inclusion ... as its always been ...

> Can someone publish a schedule for replication availability?

Its available now, and has been for several months *shrug*  There is a
project called PgReplication that is Open Source (hopefully someone from
that camp will pop up) ... and PgSQL, Inc has several deployments of their
commercial replication out there now, with several more pending ...

In fact, all of our work has been based on the rserv code that is in
contrib, and that we released over (almost?) a year ago ... but I've seen
nobody actually try to build on it, altho its what we've extended and are
using sucessfully in production environments ...

> Who is in charge of explaining newbees that MySQL InnoDB is just a
> marketing lie?

You are ... and anyone else that asks about it / mentions it ...

> What is the current PostgreSQL market share?

If you can think of a method of calculating this, as there is no
'commercial licensing' involved, please let us know ... would love to find
out ... there have been several surveys about it, but, quite frankly,
without having some sort of 'licensing' required to use, there is zero way
of getting any *real* numbers on this ...

> In other words, we should ask ourselves the question of PostgreSQL
> future organization. We come to point where PostgreSQL has equal chances
> to become the #1 database or die like Betamax.

At this point in time, the current organization == future organization ...
you are putting a 'marketing effort' as being the responsibility of the
open source project, and using MySQL AB as a comparison ... MySQL AB is a
*commercial company*, as is PostgreSQL, Inc -and- SRA and several other
newcomers, all of whom are doing marketing in their own way, based on
budget and requirements for growth ...

The "developmental organization", which we are, has been successful for
the past 7 years now ... flame wars are minimal, as are disagreements ...
there are some patches that get rejected that those generating them are
disappointed about, but most of *them* just bounce back with improvements
based on what has been told to them as being unacceptable ... about the
only thing that *has* changed over the past 7 years is that our standards
are tightened up as we move from mainly fixing bugs/stability to improving
the server itself ...